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openSUSE:Testing meeting 20100419

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Agenda

  1. Wiki pages concerning testing & triage
  2. IRC operators


Transcript [Incomplete]

[Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:36:50] <LWFinger> We do need people that contribute. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:37:53] <bmwiedemann> So inviting them to our IRC meetings would be a good start. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:38:14] <jrobiso2> Is this where I admit this is my first attendance? <blush> [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:38:27] <anaumov> LWFinger, if we will have more _easy_ info about testing process, more people will help [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:38:42] <Holgi> hi jrobiso2 [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:38:42] <LWFinger> Agreed. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:38:49] <Holgi> jrobiso2: you did it! [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:39:01] <jrobiso2> lol [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:39:53] <bmwiedemann> anaumov: we could add wiki pages about ways to help testing. There are also the many test-case descriptions in testopia. but often more technical and not always complete or helpful. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:40:47] <anaumov> bmwiedemann, give me link please [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:41:51] <anaumov> or it's just http://en.opensuse.org/Testing ? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:41:54] <bmwiedemann> anaumov: http://en.opensuse.org/Testing/Installation [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:42:05] <anaumov> EGD, http://en.opensuse.org/Testing/Installation [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:42:22] <EGD> anaumov, ok [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:42:48] <anaumov> bmwiedemann, ok [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:42:55] <EGD> anaumov, On days off I will be engaged [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:43:20] <anaumov> EGD, cool [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:43:25] * EGD думает кому передать по цепочке [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:43:37] <anaumov> :) [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:43:41] <bmwiedemann> https://bugzilla.novell.com/tr_show_plan.cgi?plan_id=2624 not sure if you can view testopia test-runs/cases [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:43:46] <anaumov> EGD, just translate it [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:44:06] <EGD> anaumov, ok! [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:44:16] <EGD> anaumov, just translate it [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:45:47] <Holgi> LWFinger: ok, is that valid input for your page? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:47:02] <bmwiedemann> I think we can start out that /News wiki page on do the remainder via wiki or ML discussion. so that we can move to the third topic for today [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:47:14] <LWFinger> Yes [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:47:19] <bmwiedemann> "Channel Operators for #opensuse-testing" [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:47:34] <Holgi> right, I submitted that [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:48:10] <bmwiedemann> does that need someone with IRC experience? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:48:56] <Holgi> I read that there is a mail address for irc ops on http://en.opensuse.org/FAIL [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:49:14] <Holgi> and was wondering if we could get either ops for this channel [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:49:32] <Holgi> or at least make sure that if there is any issue [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:49:50] <Holgi> we are able to "call" someone for help [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:50:08] <Holgi> is anybody of you aware how to get an op for that channel? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:50:17] <Holgi> this channel [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:50:46] <bmwiedemann> nope [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:50:49] <anaumov> no [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:50:54] <LWFinger> no [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:51:14] <Holgi> ok, we should find that out [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:51:50] <Holgi> because once we have a problem [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:51:53] <Holgi> it's too late [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:52:06] <Holgi> anybody wants to take that AI? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:52:09] Quit Vojtaeus has left this server (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:52:51] <Holgi> ok, so it's with me ;-) [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:52:57] <anaumov> ;) [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:53:39] <Holgi> good, that's it for this topic [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:53:49] <bmwiedemann> it is probably good to have some continuity in that job. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:54:19] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: in the IRC op job? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:54:48] <bmwiedemann> yes [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:55:07] <EGD> anaumov, http://ru.opensuse.org/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5/%D0%A3%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0 [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:55:08] <Holgi> sure, that would be good [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:55:43] <anaumov> EGD, nice! [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:56:34] Join javier_ has joined this channel (~javier@opensuse/member/javierllorente). [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:57:14] <EGD> anaumov, допереведешь? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:57:20] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: ok, if we are done with topic 3 I have something more [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:57:22] <anaumov> EGD, да [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:57:30] <EGD> anaumov, Ъ [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:57:36] <LWFinger> OK [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:57:43] <bmwiedemann> I also had another question... having looked at the Ubuntu processes, I noticed that they have well documented procedures. such as triaging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Triaging [Monday, 19 April 2010] [13:58:37] <Holgi> I see [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:00:16] <LWFinger> bmwiedemann: Are you suggesting that openSUSE needs this kind of "first level"? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:00:21] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: are you still typing your question? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:00:43] <bmwiedemann> A lot of solving bugs is getting them from "something crashes" to a pinned down reproducable problem. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:01:21] <bmwiedemann> just wondering "who does that" and "does bugzilla support that" [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:02:18] <Holgi> what in detail? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:02:33] <bmwiedemann> the triaging part. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:03:08] <Holgi> so this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+packagebugs [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:03:34] <bmwiedemann> I think, I have seen maintainers asking for extra info, so they are probably doing it on bnc. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:03:47] <Holgi> I don't know [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:04:55] <bmwiedemann> I see that as an important part of our testing job, as testing without getting the bugs pinned down and fixed will help nobody. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:05:25] <LWFinger> I do not think I have seen any of the "rewriting titles", but my recent bugs have been assigned rather quickly. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:05:42] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: maybe this is something we should raise in project mailinglist/meeting [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:06:10] <bmwiedemann> Holgi: yes. OK. just found some more good docs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:06:33] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: sure, I think it makes sense [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:06:53] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: but affects more than "us" [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:07:09] <bmwiedemann> Holgi: right. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:07:44] <bmwiedemann> Holgi: you also had a question? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:08:03] <Holgi> bmwiedemann: not a question [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:08:19] <Holgi> but I read the announcement from coolo on factory [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:08:29] <Holgi> that Milestone 6 is postponed one week [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:08:46] <ReferenceSeete> I think this is a good idea. Triage helps everyone. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:08:53] <bmwiedemann> with MS5 being delayed this was to be expected. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:05] Quit jrobiso2 has left this server. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:17] <Holgi> so next meeting would be may, 3rd [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:24] <anaumov> ok [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:33] <LWFinger> I saw coolo's announcement too. May 3 sounds good to me. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:33] <Holgi> not next monday [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:35] <bmwiedemann> in 2 weeks [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:09:56] <Holgi> good, that's it [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:10:11] <bmwiedemann> good. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:10:29] <bmwiedemann> does anyone else have something on his mind? [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:10:47] <anaumov> thanks for everybody [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:11:00] <LWFinger> Good meeting. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:11:17] <anaumov> we will work and try to take people from community [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:11:53] <Holgi> anaumov: good [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:02] <Holgi> bye all [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:05] <anaumov> bye [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:07] <bmwiedemann> so thanks for being with us in this meeting. have a nice day. and a lot of fun. [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:11] <LWFinger> Bye [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:14] <Holgi> thx bmwiedemann [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:15] <ReferenceSeete> good day [Monday, 19 April 2010] [14:12:47] Quit LWFinger has left this server (Remote host closed the connection).