Archive:Marketing meetings/2009-03-17-transcript

(01:42:52 PM) jbrockmeier: === Marketing Meeting === (01:43:12 PM) jbrockmeier: Old topics: Helping Hands - I asked suseROCKs & FunkyPenguin, there's been no movement on this since last meeting. (01:43:23 PM) jbrockmeier: We have had some interest in combining efforts with Fedora on this, though. (01:43:36 PM) decriptor: that would be cool (01:43:42 PM) jbrockmeier: I think that's probably a good idea, and FunkyPenguin has followed up with Fedora on this. (01:43:48 PM) jbrockmeier: We're waiting to hear back from them. (01:43:57 PM) jbrockmeier: We'll ping again and try to get this moving. (01:44:09 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: yeah - I think it's something we could do well together. (01:44:20 PM) jbrockmeier: == new topics == (01:44:45 PM) jbrockmeier: Community Week - Michael Loeffler will be driving a discussion on project about this. We talked this morning. (01:44:51 PM) jbrockmeier: It looks like it will be April 20-25 (01:45:16 PM) jbrockmeier: we'll definitely need to work on a plan to promote this once we have the agenda fleshed out. (01:45:40 PM) saigkill: Whrere are the Agenda? (01:45:53 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: it's not set up yet. Michl will ask for topics / ideas on project (01:46:00 PM) saigkill: OK (01:46:05 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: would probably be good if we had some ideas ahead of time, though. (01:46:16 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: any thoughts? We've talked about testing days, packaging days. (01:46:37 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor, AlbertoP, elchevive1968 ? (01:46:47 PM) saigkill: Packaging days sounds good (01:47:26 PM) AlbertoP: jbrockmeier, not much to add. Still need to work on the Geeko wants you! page (01:47:46 PM) jbrockmeier: AlbertoP: think we'll have that done by April 20? (01:47:58 PM) AlbertoP: I think so (01:48:07 PM) AlbertoP: what happens on april 20? :-? (01:48:15 PM) jbrockmeier: AlbertoP: that'll be the start of the community week (01:48:19 PM) AlbertoP: oh ok (01:48:20 PM) detlef [n=detlef@opensuse/member/Drcux] entered the room. (01:48:29 PM) jbrockmeier: so would be good if we could point new community folks to that page. (01:48:30 PM) AlbertoP: sorry I missed the line where you said it (01:48:38 PM) jbrockmeier: AlbertoP: no worries :-) (01:48:42 PM) AlbertoP: should be ready, yes (01:48:50 PM) AlbertoP: just need to cut and paste stuff ^^ (01:49:23 PM) jbrockmeier: any other comments/thoughts on the community week? (01:49:57 PM) jbrockmeier: (it's always hard to tell in IRC if everyone's done talking or just typing slowly... ;-)) (01:49:59 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: sorry had someone freak on our team about nothing... had to put out a fake fire (01:50:16 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: probably best that it was about nothing :-) (01:50:36 PM) decriptor: true. it would have been a pain otherwise (01:50:44 PM) decriptor: (we released 1.0 today) decriptor detlef (01:51:36 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: congrats :-) decriptor detlef (01:51:46 PM) jbrockmeier: OK, next topic (01:51:54 PM) jbrockmeier: General Promotions (01:51:56 PM) ***AlbertoP wonders 1.0 of what :) (01:52:04 PM) jbrockmeier: We have quite a while until 11.2 (01:52:18 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: thanks (01:52:34 PM) jbrockmeier: and we will have quite a bit of news around openSUSE Build Service, etc. but we could also think up a few ways to drive more downloads / installs of 11.1 (01:52:37 PM) decriptor: AlbertoP: mono uia (a11y for winforms) (01:52:43 PM) AlbertoP: k (01:52:57 PM) jbrockmeier: we don't need to come up with everything in this meeting, but I wanted to throw out the topic and ask -marketing team members to start thinking about htis. (01:53:00 PM) jbrockmeier: er, this. (01:53:14 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: car wash (01:53:23 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: um... (01:53:32 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: 'splain (01:54:00 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: come see joe topless washing cars :) (01:54:06 PM) mmarek_home left the room (quit: "Leaving."). (01:54:07 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: dude, no (01:54:07 PM) decriptor: or install 11.1 (01:54:12 PM) decriptor: you pick :) (01:54:20 PM) jbrockmeier: any *serious* suggestions? (01:54:32 PM) saigkill: At the moment not (01:55:15 PM) jbrockmeier: alrighty (01:55:45 PM) jbrockmeier: next topic: Ambassador program - will be finally announcing that this week, barring any major problems (01:56:18 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: maybe we should create a edu dvd store of sorts (01:56:26 PM) jbrockmeier: I wanted to see if we have any volunteers to become an ambassador? (01:56:45 PM) decriptor: contact schools (highschools, colleges, etc) (01:56:55 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: I can take on my area (01:57:08 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: edu dvd? (01:57:19 PM) jbrockmeier: is this different than the edu project? (01:57:34 PM) decriptor: not a variant, but just a get the media to schools (01:58:21 PM) decriptor: though, http://tinyurl.com/dmoa4y looked cool (01:58:53 PM) decriptor: I think lots of images through obs might be key to spreading openSUSE (01:58:56 PM) jbrockmeier: Interesting. (01:59:53 PM) decriptor: I think it would be cool to host some variants made from studio (01:59:54 PM) jbrockmeier: I'll send a note to -marketing for further brainstorming. (02:00:08 PM) AlbertoP: decriptor, some, not 1000 ;) (02:00:11 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: that's the plan, eventually - though we're still working on that. (02:00:17 PM) decriptor: ie, mythtv, the mono image, etc (02:00:22 PM) cgoncalv1s [n=carlos@bl12-57-251.dsl.telepac.pt] entered the room. (02:00:25 PM) tacit: hmm lots of images.. jigdo? (02:00:27 PM) AlbertoP: decriptor, did you see the "moodle appliance" btw? (02:00:37 PM) jbrockmeier: welcome cgoncalv1s :-) (02:00:48 PM) jbrockmeier: tacit: ? (02:00:50 PM) decriptor: tacit: I thought you were going to cover the hosting costs :) (02:01:07 PM) decriptor: AlbertoP: yeah, there are already several (02:01:29 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: a distributed downloader I think (02:01:30 PM) AlbertoP: decriptor, yup...moodle seems quite interesting for schools (02:01:36 PM) jbrockmeier: ah, OK - that's what I was thinking (02:01:50 PM) jbrockmeier: sometimes more than one project has the same name, you know? (02:01:51 PM) decriptor: yeah, there are some schools around here that are using it (02:02:09 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: or several projects that do the same thing :) (02:02:13 PM) jbrockmeier: that too (02:02:26 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: but then they usually have different names for maximum confusion. (02:02:42 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: I think something hugh would be to get more 1 clicks out there (02:03:04 PM) decriptor: so when people go to the download page they see an openSUSE option (02:03:25 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: sadly decriptor detlef (02:03:35 PM) saigkill: Thats an interesting thing. I think i promote this (02:03:39 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: that's a good idea: Spreading 1-click (02:04:11 PM) decriptor: I think its a great idea... people seemed to love it at scale when I showed it off (02:04:34 PM) jbrockmeier: OK (02:04:42 PM) jbrockmeier: any other thoughts? (02:04:55 PM) decriptor: I have another one (02:05:15 PM) decriptor: (great example btw, http://www.videolan.org/) (02:06:04 PM) decriptor: I think it would be awesome to have an openSLES (open to names, using just for clarity sake) (02:06:29 PM) decriptor: I think its helped out rhel (02:06:34 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: you mean something like CentOS? (02:06:39 PM) decriptor: yup (02:06:46 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: that's sort of beyond openSUSE's scope :-) (02:06:53 PM) jbrockmeier: Not that I disagree (02:07:02 PM) jbrockmeier: but that'd require quite a bit of work. (02:07:09 PM) jbrockmeier: and an interested party to take that on. (02:07:11 PM) decriptor: I think it would help in the grand scheme of things (02:07:25 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: not really to boot strap it (02:07:34 PM) saigkill: jbrockmeier: I'm agreeing with you (02:07:42 PM) decriptor: obs would help a ton (02:07:45 PM) elche [n=elcheviv@189.27.38.144] entered the room. (02:08:01 PM) decriptor: it simplifies a lot of the process (02:08:04 PM) decriptor: I think (02:08:27 PM) elche left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). (02:09:25 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: let's set that one aside for now - that's really more about promoting Novell enterprise products than openSUSE (02:09:40 PM) jbrockmeier: I have to wonder if it's possible to rebuild SLE now in OBS, though. (02:09:54 PM) decriptor: I was thinking more making suse a more common name (02:09:59 PM) jbrockmeier: The last topic on the agenda is upcoming shows (02:10:06 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: sue? (02:10:10 PM) decriptor: suse (02:10:13 PM) jbrockmeier: that's a pretty common name, or at least it used to be. (02:10:34 PM) decriptor: (still kinks in my migration to dvorak) (02:11:08 PM) decriptor: or whatever (02:11:22 PM) jbrockmeier: we have quite a few shows coming up, and so I'd like to spread the word that we're looking for booth volunteers (02:11:54 PM) cgoncalves left the room (quit: Connection timed out). (02:11:58 PM) jbrockmeier: also, we'll be formally announcing dates for the openSUSE conference next week (02:12:15 PM) jbrockmeier: it will be in September, 17 - 20, in Nuremberg (02:12:32 PM) mrdocs|mob [n=mrdocs@opensuse/member/mrdocs] entered the room. (02:12:33 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: you flying me out :D (02:12:44 PM) saigkill: What kind of conference is this? (02:12:59 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: we'll be paying for some kind of community travel. How much is TBD (02:13:01 PM) decriptor: an expensive one if you live in the US (02:13:07 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: a contributor conference (02:13:09 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: ooo (02:13:31 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: we'll also have some openSUSE contributor sessions at the LinuxCon in San Francisco - Sept. 21-24 (02:13:48 PM) jbrockmeier: so we'll have North America & Europe covered (02:14:05 PM) decriptor: cool, we are looking at utos on oct 8-10 (02:14:08 PM) decriptor: fyi (02:14:10 PM) jbrockmeier: and I'll be very ready for a vacation after the 25th of September... :-) (02:14:18 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: that's kind of late, isn't it? (02:14:31 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: I thought it'd be around August? (02:14:39 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: that might overlap with the Ohio LinuxFest (02:14:45 PM) decriptor: that's what they wanh (02:14:53 PM) decriptor: I think they looked into that (02:15:16 PM) jbrockmeier: OK - that's all I have on the agenda (02:15:21 PM) jbrockmeier: any other thoughts / items to add? (02:15:30 PM) decriptor: The seventh annual Ohio LinuxFest will be on September 25-26, 2009 (02:15:34 PM) jbrockmeier: I'll pause for 60 seconds give time to type (02:15:38 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: OK (02:15:43 PM) jbrockmeier: that's right (02:15:53 PM) decriptor: ouch that's a lot of conferences (02:16:08 PM) decriptor: suseROCKs wanted me to bring up oS-T (02:16:08 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: I'm skipping OLF this year (02:16:16 PM) decriptor: openSUSE-Tutorials (02:16:20 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: OK (02:16:24 PM) jbrockmeier: you have the floor (02:16:47 PM) decriptor: we want to build that up and get people involved (02:17:02 PM) decriptor: I've been really busy the last little while (02:17:32 PM) decriptor: but I did get the chance to update the backend (02:17:52 PM) rohananil left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). (02:17:59 PM) decriptor: I tried to get the openSUSE wordpress theme on there but it was a no go (02:18:41 PM) decriptor: it seems like there is a lot of people looking for information, and not enough of it (02:19:41 PM) decriptor: so any help or suggestions is/are very welcome (02:20:12 PM) simon123: not enough of them contribute? (02:20:32 PM) decriptor: we don't have any contributors right now (02:21:05 PM) simon123: that was the problem with Lessons for Lizards (02:21:17 PM) simon123: to high requirements (02:21:21 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: should we be directing to oS-T instead of news.opensuse.org? (02:21:44 PM) decriptor: what do you mean? tutorials? (02:22:07 PM) decriptor: we were thinking that it would be good if people posted to their blog and oS-T (02:22:33 PM) simon123: have you link to oS-T (02:22:37 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: and have the same content on both? (02:22:40 PM) cgoncalv1s left the room (quit: Connection timed out). (02:22:55 PM) decriptor: simon123: opensuse-tutorials.com (02:23:01 PM) decriptor: jbrockmeier: sure (02:23:35 PM) elchevive1968 left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). (02:23:47 PM) tacit left the room (quit: Read error: 113 (No route to host)). (02:23:56 PM) decriptor: there is some overlap, but that way people can blog on their site as well as oS-T, more google juice? (02:24:28 PM) rohananil [n=rohanani@210.212.160.101] entered the room. (02:24:40 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: I think it's less, actually (02:24:57 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: SEO recommends against duplicate content on different domains, AFAIK (02:25:07 PM) decriptor: oh, that could be (02:26:27 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: any other thoughts on oS-T? (02:26:33 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: maybe bring up again on -marketing list? (02:26:39 PM) jbrockmeier: any other topics in general? (02:26:42 PM) decriptor: I can do that (02:26:49 PM) jbrockmeier: again, pausing 60 seconds (02:26:52 PM) decriptor: I'm hoping to get some more content (02:27:37 PM) saigkill: jbrockmeier: have you ever recieved the Message with my Proposals to integrate (WebRadio and other Magazins)? (02:27:56 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: when did you send this? (02:28:14 PM) saigkill: Oh. Hmm. I think two weeks ago (02:28:22 PM) saigkill: Should i resend the Mail? (02:28:33 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: yeah, I think so - I don't recall that at all (02:28:38 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: was that to me or to -marketing? (02:28:55 PM) saigkill: No, the message goes to zonker@opensuse.org (02:29:05 PM) saigkill: No Problem i can resend it (02:29:11 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: OK, thanks (02:29:32 PM) jbrockmeier: saigkill: OH - that may have come in while I was on vacation (02:29:44 PM) saigkill: That is possible (02:30:37 PM) jbrockmeier: and I will send out a note asking for best times for the next meeting, which will be in 2 weeks (02:30:53 PM) jbrockmeier: unless there's anything else, we'll call this a wrap. :-) (02:31:15 PM) simon123: People of openSUSE (02:31:22 PM) jbrockmeier: ah, yes (02:31:37 PM) jbrockmeier: simon123: what about it? Are you interested in picking it up? (02:31:45 PM) simon123: Yes (02:31:46 PM) IonutVan [n=IonutVan@client-86-25-188-49.bsh-bng-012.adsl.virginmedia.net] entered the room. (02:32:01 PM) decriptor: for meeting schedule - -http://whenisgood.net/ (02:32:19 PM) simon123: I got account and I'll continue on marketing mail list (02:32:38 PM) jbrockmeier: decriptor: oooh, spiffy (02:32:40 PM) jbrockmeier: will try that. (02:32:50 PM) decriptor: looks cool (02:32:52 PM) jbrockmeier: simon123: OK - any questions for now? (02:33:05 PM) decriptor: someone told me about it, I've never tried it though (02:33:06 PM) simon123: No, thanks. (02:33:09 PM) saigkill: No im pacified :-) (02:33:13 PM) rohananil left the room (quit: "Leaving."). (02:33:33 PM) jbrockmeier: heh (02:33:38 PM) jbrockmeier: OK (02:33:54 PM) jbrockmeier: thanks everybody - much appreciated. Will put up the chat shortly