Archive:Board meeting 2022-01-31
Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2022-01-31
Board: Gerald, Axel, Gertjan, Neal, Syds
Absent: Atilla, Maurizio
Guests: Bill, Doug, Emily, Luna, Max, Lubos
Topic: openSUSE Membership
Bill: Suggests the Board asks for the state of membership applications/processing on a regular occurrence. It would add some more accountability for such a core function.
Gerald: What would be a reasonable cadence?
Bill: Seems reasonable, we should also report around election time too, since that's when most applications happen anyway.
Emily: Would like to join the membership officials too. Bill seems to be doing everything and she's like to help out.
Axel: Don't think the board can do this.
Neal: It's actually one of the few things we can directly do.
Gerald: Points out Wolfgang and others do plenty too. We shouldn't use this power to randomly add more people because it's not terribly polite.
There's a lot of discussion about the particulars between Gerald and Bill.
Emily: They seem to be full of people that do lots of things right now, and don't focus much on membership.
Gerald: Historically the team was quite large and we were told even members of the team didn't precisely know who was on it, and some were missing in action. Plus they did not have ownership of their own mailing list or Wiki page, which has been/is being addressed now. The ones that were primarily processing things (Wolfgang and Dominique) are also very busy processing things around the last election. Bill was a good addition and perhaps adding Emily will help too.
Bill: He proposed to the team to meet monthly, they didn't receive the idea well.
Neal: Regular meetings are a rather new thing for teams, it's not a cultural norm yet. Hopefully it will be eventually.
Topic: Communication Platform Moderation
Gertjan: Atilla, Maurizio, and him have started figuring out all the platforms and made the first steps toward getting a central moderation group set up (mailing list, etc.). Reaching out to Jim from the forums, waiting for a response.
Bill: Discovered there's already a moderator list that Sasi Olin owns, they'll be modifying that.
Topic: AlmaLinux sponsorship
Doug: AlmaLinux reached out again to sponsor.
The Board generally seems fine about it. Would like to know what they want out of it though, since it's a bit odd.
Topic: openSUSE Leap 15.4
Axel: Wants opinion on new release, thinks we'll shoot ourselves in the foot on default Python (3.6).
Neal: This is a consequence of the Leap platform being based on SLE. We do have alternate interpreters that we can build community packages on top of. Python 3.6 is also the default in RHEL 8 and between Fedora EPEL and openSUSE community, we could probably continue supporting stuff on it by sharing effort. But we can also build modules in Backports against newer interpreters.
Lubos: SUSE ships 3.6 as default for stable. And 3.9 as an alternate interpreter with no packages built against it.
Neal: Points out that Tumbleweed is failing here, where 3.8 is still the default and neither 3.9 nor 3.10 never made it. We should sort that out first before tackling Leap. Newer stuff has to land in Factory first.
Gerald: Leap (or SLE) are always about compromises. In software every (major) update fares a good chance of breaking something - and be it an unwarranted assumption It's difficult to handle this kind of stuff. If the community wants something like the classic (open)SUSE Linux releases branched from Tumbleweed, the community needs to take that on.
Lubos: Our build system capacity for s390x is close to our limits, duplicating distro would push us past our limits.
Neal: For the Python issue, we can just set up community support for them.
Topic: openSUSE Leap Micro 5.1
Lubos: openSUSE meets Cardano (Leap Micro 5.1)
- Requests board review: https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/59