Talk:Wishlist GNOME

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Munkii,

I'm not sure is there any need to list applications as GNOME or KDE, or any other desktop environment. Unlike some other distributions that are specific about used desktop, openSUSE can run any application. I would include Alexandria in whatever other list is relevant (you mentioned Tellico) and mark Wishlist Gnome for deletion.

--Rajko M 00:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Rajko M,

i'm just trying to cleanup the wishlists, and it's not gonna happen unless we apply more categorization, making desktop specific lists will reduce the load on the other wishlists, and help repositories maintainers decide what packages are most needed by users. however we still need a better way to handle the wishlists, cb400c suggested FATE, but i have no idea what that is, or how it works.

btw, Alexandria wasn't my suggestion, i took it from the Various Wishlist

--munkii 02:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

munkii,

more categories is good idea, but desktop list will bring more problems than it will solve.

• 1) lists by desktops will be huge and that is directly against your goal, to clean them up.
• 2) it is irrelevant division, application will run, if it has all libraries, on any desktop. Have you ever run KDE or GNOME applications in fvwm, xfce, window manager, twm etc, they work just as fine as in native desktop environment.
• 3) where to put applications that will run on any desktop, as long as X server is running
• 4) where to put applications that need no desktop.

Please try to add categories in a different way, something like splitting the largest lists in subcategories, instead.

--Rajko M 05:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Rajko M,

• 1) the size doesn't matter as long as it's readable, the old wishlists were such a mess, devs and repo maintainers were more likely discouraged from reading it than being overwhelmed

• 2) while that's true, the new separation of the gnome and kde installation CD's in 10.3 acquires us to start considering more desktop dependent apps, users who'd rather not install extra libs for programs that are meant to work on other desktop environments should get what they want, because it's more efficient, this is how it works in most distro's. that and the fact that some applications are absolutely desktop dependent (i.e, mail notification, gimmie panel, tomboy reminder, KDE startup manager, etc..)

• 3) any other wishlist should do just fine for non-desktop specific apps, the Gnome/KDE wishlist is only meant to serve a certain type of package requests, you can already see some examples on both lists.

• 4) --> 3)

let's discuss this in the ML.

--munkii 23:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The opensuse-wiki@opensuse.org is good place for discussion. I'll post my answer there. --Rajko M 12:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)