OpenSUSE Weekly News/Meetings/20090613

[16:29:05] saigkill [n=saigkill@opensuse/member/saigkill] hat das Thema geändert auf "Welcome to the Weekly News Team Meeting. Our Topics can found in http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Meetings/Topics_current" [16:30:21] <@saigkill> Hello Mates. Now we have 14:30 UTC. I think we can start our Meeting [16:30:28] <koga> hi, all [16:30:48] <@saigkill> Warm welcome to our new Mates :-) [16:31:27] <@saigkill> Now i let see you aour Topics [16:31:34] <@saigkill> Topics [16:31:36] <@saigkill> 1.) Old Action Items [16:31:38] <@saigkill> 1.1.) Jan: Ping Zonker or Novell (Logo) - mail sent, WIP [16:31:40] <@saigkill> Ping geoff & hawake - geoff/hawake pinged, waiting reply [16:31:42] <@saigkill> 1.2) Sascha: Ping Minton [16:31:44] <@saigkill> 1.3) Satoru (and Transrators): Dummy page for 'Not yet translated' template [16:31:46] <@saigkill> 2.) New Action Items: [16:31:48] <@saigkill> 2.1) STS301: Poll solutions "How are the openSUSE news" [16:31:50] <@saigkill> 3.0.) Question & Answers [16:32:30] <STS301> Jan isn't here [16:32:35] <@saigkill> I start with Jans Part. He has pinged Zonker for the Logo. But there is WIP. No Answer [16:32:47] <+HeliosReds> Hmm. [16:32:48] <STS301> which Logo? [16:33:12] <@saigkill> He has pinged geoff and hawake (Status Report) [16:33:31] <+HeliosReds> STS301: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Logo#Satoru_Matsumoto_.28aka_HeliosReds.29 [16:34:03] <@saigkill> But geoff and hawake doesn't answer ATM [16:34:14] <STS301> cool Pictures, may I add the SUSEnews Logo? [16:35:05] <@saigkill> Next AI Sascha ping minton [16:35:33] <+HeliosReds> STS301: We are asking Novell for permissions to use those logos for our newsletter. [16:35:48] <@saigkill> ATM it is difficult for our russian Mates to translate the Newsletter. [16:35:48] <STS301> <ea [16:36:05] <gnokii_> who needs a logo? [16:36:17] <STS301> yes, but may I add to this page the SUSEnews logo? [16:37:11] <+HeliosReds> STS301: Which SUSEnews logo? [16:37:22] <STS301> I'll show you [16:38:33] <+HeliosReds> saigkill: So, ATM, we have no translator for Russian ? [16:39:09] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: Right. k0da and minton haven't enough time atm [16:40:15] <@saigkill> I try to search an other Russian Guy for the Translation [16:41:10] <@saigkill> Our next Topic: Satoru and his Dummy Page. [16:41:20] <@saigkill> Satoru "The State is yours" [16:41:55] <+HeliosReds> Have you seen ? http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/74 [16:41:56] <STS301> HeliosReds: https://susenews.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/susenews/icons/susenews.png [16:42:09] <gnokii_> HeliosReds: I have seen your logos. Little tip from me use the newspaper and geeko in there ;) [16:42:47] <STS301> HeliosReds: In the german news #74 I added it, but on #75 I forgot it [16:43:03] <+HeliosReds> The idea is, if the translation is delayed, we cau put the info for that instead of just an empty page. [16:44:02] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: So i think we can publish this Sitelink to -marketing. Then the Translators can translate it... [16:44:44] <+HeliosReds> And IIRC, Jan is going to make a script to upload this info to each sites automatically. [16:45:33] <+HeliosReds> We, translators have to prepare our own info for that. [16:45:43] <STS301> making the script wouldn't be a problem, but the big problem (which I also have) would be the login on novell [16:46:57] <@saigkill> Script sounds good. But i think while running the GSoC, Jan haven't time for that [16:47:21] <STS301> I also thought about that introducing it into my programm, but the problem is the login and until now I didn't try on that, because until now I am working to get my programm work like Jan's script does (translator thing) [16:48:06] <+HeliosReds> If all the translators make their own info for that, we can at laest upload them manually. [16:48:07] <STS301> I will try to get the translated files directly via the program uploaded, but ... [16:49:05] <@saigkill> STS301: In our statistics.py Script we get Informations from OBS. And the Script only runs, if the User is logged in into OBS. Then the fetch works through the Cookie. [16:50:19] <STS301> ok, that is a nice solution, but I think that this is THE solution, I will try to get it run (my school time is nearly over) [16:50:35] <STS301> * via direct login [16:51:30] <@saigkill> Handling iChain/iPain is difficult in own Programs.. [16:51:57] <+HeliosReds> STS301: Then, it will be your AI, making script for that. OK ? [16:52:54] simon321 [n=Rajko@97-88-193-180.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [16:52:59] <STS301> saigkill: I know, but I hope someone did it and can tell my how to do, HeliosReds: can't script ;), I am programming (there is a difference) [16:53:41] <@saigkill> Have i sent you our statistics.py? [16:53:45] <+HeliosReds> However the more important is, IMHO, we should put some information for untranslated page instead of just an empty page. [16:53:58] <STS301> HeliosReds: does that fit your assocation http://de.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE-Wochenschau/74 [16:54:40] <STS301> yes, but it doesn't work, it needs a "Beautfil Soup" [16:54:41] <+HeliosReds> STS301: That's right. [16:55:16] <gnokii_> HeliosReds: u have the svg version of the newspaper that u use for your logo? [16:56:09] <+HeliosReds> gnokii_: I designed that logo by using OOo Draw. [16:56:21] <@saigkill> STS301: Just type webpin beautifulsoup then you know, how to get beautifulsoup [16:56:30] ScriptRipper [n=mmohring@p4FDBD020.dip.t-dialin.net] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [16:56:30] ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] hat den Modus +v ScriptRipper gesetzt [16:56:48] <gnokii_> HeliosReds: and the newspaper you have the source? [17:00:14] <+HeliosReds> gnokii_: Maybe I can find materials for that somewhere in my local disk. ;-) But ATM, I have to stay focus on the meeting. [17:00:37] <STS301> saigkill: it doesn't know any "webpin" command [17:01:15] <@saigkill> STS301: then just type zypper in webpin :-) [17:02:51] <STS301> in webpin?? you mean "zypper webpin beautifulsoup"? [17:03:08] jada [n=jada@cpe-76-174-227-80.socal.res.rr.com] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [17:03:42] jada [n=jada@cpe-76-174-227-80.socal.res.rr.com] hat den IRC verlassen: Client Quit [17:04:13] <+HeliosReds> STS301: No, just install webpin by "zypper in webpin" [17:04:25] <@saigkill> STS301: zypper in webpin && webpin beautifulsoup [17:04:54] <simon321> STS301: try this http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ [17:05:40] <STS301> there is no "webpin" package, there is a "webpin-yast" something like that, simon321: I'll search [17:06:49] <@saigkill> webpin: Command-Line Client for the openSUSE Package Search Web Service [17:06:49] <@saigkill> - 1.0.1 [BS::openSUSE:/Tools | BS::home:/pikerhog:/utils] [17:06:55] <STS301> jo [17:07:15] <simon321> STS301: there is for openSUSE 11.1 see ^^^ [17:07:32] <STS301> ^^, now it should work [17:09:58] <@saigkill> Summary: AI Sebastian: Write a Script for handling the Dummy-Site [17:10:31] <@saigkill> AI HeliosReds: Send Email to -marketing for translating the Page [17:10:41] <+HeliosReds> Sure. [17:10:58] <@saigkill> So i think we've finished this Topic [17:11:41] <@saigkill> Next Topic: STS301:Poll Solution [17:11:52] <@saigkill> Sebastian "The state is yours" [17:12:48] <STS301> saigkill: I can't sript!!! There is a difference between a script language (Python, Perl, HTML) and a programming language (C, Delphi, Java...) [17:13:01] <STS301> ok, lets start [17:13:16] <@saigkill> OK then i move the AI to Jan [17:13:44] <STS301> as some of you might have seen, that I postet two polls, one on my blog and one in forums.opensuse [17:14:03] <STS301> saigkill: I can programm it, but not script! [17:14:43] <STS301> http://linux301.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/how-are-the-opensuse-news/ [17:15:10] <STS301> http://forums.opensuse.org/surveys-polls/416228-how-opensuse-news.html [17:16:34] <STS301> unfortunatly there where, specially in the openSUSE Forum not many votes or comments [17:17:19] <STS301> mostly of the people votet good, but there was a funny guy who votet bad, without saying anything [17:17:33] <STS301> The comment from my blog was: [17:17:48] <STS301> Features are not known. I´d like to see tasks-features and how is their progress. Like Fedora has. [17:17:49] <STS301> http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague#Features_are_not_known.2C_they_are_not_documented.2C_thus_not_used_ [17:17:59] <STS301> how do you think about that? [17:22:21] <@saigkill> In my view it's not depending on the Weekly News [17:23:35] <STS301> ok, I also didn't really understand what he meant [17:23:46] <STS301> next (from the Forum): [17:24:00] <STS301> Maybe they need to be more interesting, from a marketing point of view (sell me the news ) [17:24:06] <+HeliosReds> STS301: Do you mean to gather overall impression for OWN or for each issue ? [17:24:22] <STS301> all [17:28:24] <+HeliosReds> The feedbacks why they thought OWN good or bad is more important for us than the result. [17:28:57] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: You're right. ATM the results are not representative [17:29:03] <STS301> I know, but they didn't really answer or vote at all [17:29:29] <@saigkill> I think we move this AI to the next Meeting. Maybe we have then more Entrys [17:29:32] <STS301> I got in all 3 feedbacks!! I thought I might get more in the forum [17:29:55] <STS301> ok, the 3rd is I think the most suitable [17:30:15] <@saigkill> Then i think, we can lable this Topic as finished. Moved to next Meeting [17:30:28] <@saigkill> Our last Topic today: Q & A [17:30:37] <@saigkill> Any Questions? [17:30:40] <STS301> nono, I am not finished [17:31:16] <@saigkill> Ah ok [17:31:40] <STS301> If we could upload a file for each issue (for the upcomming events) so you can import it easily into you organizer (KOrganizer or so) [17:32:44] simon123 [n=Rajko@97-88-193-180.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [17:33:23] <+HeliosReds> STS301: Which file do you mean ? [17:34:10] <STS301> a file which includeds the upcoming events, so you can import them into you organizer and then you have the dates in there, without doing it manually [17:34:45] |dl9pf| [n=dl9pf@p54838602.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [17:34:48] <@saigkill> STS301: You can also use the official Newsfeed calendar from news.o.o [17:34:57] <@saigkill> Its easier [17:35:11] <STS301> ok, I didn't think about that [17:35:15] <STS301> ok, I am finished [17:35:46] <@saigkill> :-) I've written in past an Article on Lizards with how to use the remote calendar [17:36:03] <@saigkill> OK. Then Q & A [17:36:09] <|dl9pf|> evening all - just arrived @home [17:36:18] <@saigkill> Hi Jan [17:36:34] <|dl9pf|> saigkill: tnx for jumping in [17:36:44] <@saigkill> No Problem [17:36:52] <+HeliosReds> |dl9pf|: Guten Tag! [17:37:27] <STS301> hi Jan [17:37:35] <@saigkill> |dl9pf|: Have you anything for our Topics? [17:37:45] <@saigkill> Otherwise, we stay in Q & A [17:38:14] <|dl9pf|> HeliosReds: konnichiwa [17:38:18] <|dl9pf|> no, atm not [17:38:34] <|dl9pf|> just checking mails again [17:38:55] <@saigkill> I've just uploaded our AIs to Meeting/Topics_current [17:40:52] <|dl9pf|> ok. anyone wants to have the counter activated ? i'll have my current internet connection for 2 more issues now [17:41:12] <|dl9pf|> then also gobby may be offline for at least 2 weeks [17:42:08] <|dl9pf|> until i've a substitute available [17:43:21] <|dl9pf|> brb [17:45:28] simon321 [n=Rajko@97-88-193-180.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] hat den IRC verlassen: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:46:18] <+HeliosReds> |dl9pf|: What do you mean by "anyone wants to have the counter activated ?" [17:46:39] <@saigkill> I think he mean the counterpixel [17:48:17] <+HeliosReds> Then, for ja please. ;-) [17:51:01] <STS301> |dl9pf|: could it be on news.o.o, that there is an encoding problem with the name "Müller"?? [17:51:08] }-yoda-{ [n=}-yoda-{@p54838602.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [17:56:22] <+HeliosReds> STS301: Your question to |dl9pf| is not directly related to OWN, right ? [17:57:03] <simon123> what encoding problem ? [17:57:35] <+HeliosReds> If there is no more question about OWN, how about finish the meeting anyway. [17:57:41] <simon123> the People of openSUSE article? [17:58:09] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: You're right. I think we can finish the official Meeting [17:58:37] <@saigkill> The Transcript an the Minutes coming up in a few hours... [17:59:18] <+HeliosReds> saigkill: Thanks for your moderating. ;-) [17:59:34] <@saigkill> Thanks you all for staying here [17:59:52] saigkill [n=saigkill@opensuse/member/saigkill] hat das Thema geändert auf "Welcome to the Channel from the openSUSE Weekly News | http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/ | Any Questions you can post to: dl9pf@opensuse.org or saigkill@opensuse.org | Next Meeting: 2009-06-27 14:30 UTC"