OpenSUSE Weekly News/Meetings/20090418

16:41:59] dl9pf [n=dl9pf@opensuse/member/dl9pf] hat das Thema geändert auf "openSUSE Weekly News Team Meeting" [16:42:11] <@dl9pf> Welcome to our bi-weekly openSUSE Weekly News Team meeting ! [16:42:24] <@dl9pf> Topics: [16:42:24] <@dl9pf> Old action items [16:42:24] <@dl9pf> * Logo [16:42:24] <@dl9pf> * openSUSE Community Week [16:42:24] <@dl9pf> [16:42:25] <@dl9pf> New action items [16:42:27] <@dl9pf> * ToDo checklist for the 'now out' announcement [16:42:29] <@dl9pf> * Status of ru, it, sv translators [16:42:31] <@dl9pf> * Page with available languages per issue <-> announcement with (delayed) [16:42:50] <@dl9pf> 1) Old action items - Logo: [16:43:36] <@dl9pf> There were no more new submissions - we'll take the two candidates and submit [16:43:36] <@dl9pf> * http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OWN_logo_HeliosReds_draft01.png [16:43:36] <@dl9pf> * http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News.png [16:43:36] <@dl9pf> [16:43:36] <@dl9pf> comments? objections ? [16:45:09] <+HeliosReds> Where to use http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News.png ? [16:45:57] <@dl9pf> your image is good as banner on top of the newsletter [16:46:18] <@dl9pf> the other picture is better as small icon if there's not much space [16:47:00] <+HeliosReds> I see. And how about http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Open_suse_news.jpg ? [16:47:31] <@dl9pf> there were comments about the "hat" being already taken for redhat :D [16:47:56] <+HeliosReds> Just now, it's on the top of the 'OpenSUSE Weekly News' page. [16:48:44] <@dl9pf> yes - we'll use one of the selected logos there [16:49:23] <@dl9pf> we just didn't change it before submission/approval [16:50:37] <phocean> hi all [16:50:45] <@dl9pf> ok, next topic [16:50:46] <phocean> I just came back [16:50:49] <phocean> sorry [16:50:59] <+HeliosReds> phocean: Hi ! [16:51:00] <@dl9pf> hi phocean ! nice you here . [16:51:24] <@dl9pf> 2) * openSUSE Community Week [16:52:00] <@dl9pf> we agreed to do an "special edition" for 1/2 of the week and cover the other stuff in the normal newsletter [16:52:22] <+HeliosReds> It seems, the detail is still WIP. [16:52:36] <@dl9pf> Question is now: should we try to prepare a workshop like [16:52:46] <@dl9pf> creating a weekly newsletter (for beginners ?) [16:52:47] <@dl9pf> or [16:52:57] <@dl9pf> translating a weekly newsletter (for beginners ?) [16:53:28] <@dl9pf> e.g. prepare the special edition together with others to attract team members ? [16:53:59] <+HeliosReds> dl9pf: That's a good idea ! [16:54:13] <phocean> hmm good idea [16:54:32] <naruoga> I think so to. [16:54:50] <kaza_> I think so, too. [16:54:58] <@dl9pf> question: who has time during the week to drive this - or who can prepare a little concept [16:55:11] <@dl9pf> i'll be available, but not fulltime [16:56:12] <@dl9pf> we could limit it to e.g. one day -> e.g. tuesday/wednesday [16:56:13] <phocean> I have no time during week days unfortunately [16:56:16] <naruoga> I'll be available also, however...I'm wonder we (Japanese team) can use my translation directly :). [16:56:20] <phocean> at least until june [16:57:09] <@dl9pf> ok, so we would do it, but need some assistance for driving this [16:57:43] <+HeliosReds> It's always better than nothing. I'd like to help. ;-) [16:57:46] <@dl9pf> i could offer half a day/fulltime [16:58:18] <naruoga> Heliosreds: Ok, talk about this later. [16:59:06] <@dl9pf> hmm - could someone prepare some ideas for a 1 day activity during the week then ? [16:59:11] <@dl9pf> -> mailinglist [17:00:22] <@dl9pf> ok, for the log: 1-day activity for community week (work in progress) [17:00:22] <saigkill> Sorry. I'm late [17:00:29] <phocean> dl9pf, I will contribute, I have a few ideas maybe [17:00:37] <@dl9pf> hehe - hi saigkill, we already missed you :P [17:01:05] <@dl9pf> phocean: great - ideas welcome, we'll work out on the mailinglist then, tnx [17:01:20] <@dl9pf> ok, then next topic: [17:01:25] <@dl9pf> New action Items: [17:01:36] <@dl9pf> 3) * ToDo checklist for the 'now out' announcement [17:01:57] <@dl9pf> HeliosReds assigned some homework to me and saigkill :D (hehe) [17:02:13] <+HeliosReds> Yeah. [17:02:35] <@dl9pf> so here's the current version: [17:02:36] <@dl9pf> http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Checklist [17:03:25] <+HeliosReds> I see. Is there anything I can do ? [17:04:34] <@dl9pf> HeliosReds: your hawk-eyes are invaluable :D [17:05:07] <naruoga> :) [17:06:59] <@dl9pf> ok, next [17:07:07] <@dl9pf> 4) * Status ru, it, sv: [17:07:21] <@dl9pf> ru -> unknown, need to ping (AI JanSimon) [17:07:42] <@dl9pf> it -> busy with school and easter (we need support there) [17:07:47] <@dl9pf> sv -> busy with work, no time [17:08:22] <@dl9pf> its really hard for small (1-2 ppl) teams to translate every issue [17:08:51] <phocean> I could not translate the last one, due to heavy work load [17:09:17] <phocean> I tried to recruit some folks but so far, no success [17:10:07] <+HeliosReds> If they are really busy, I'd like to help them. [17:10:17] <phocean> so as long as I will be alone, the French version could suffer of it too :( [17:10:35] <@dl9pf> phocean: thats clear and really no problem [17:11:02] <naruoga> I have some comment about this issue, but it's little bit long to IRC, [17:11:10] <phocean> dl9pf, thanks [17:11:19] <naruoga> so I'll post it to mailing list. [17:11:32] <@dl9pf> naruoga: then write to opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org (need to subscribe first) [17:12:03] <naruoga> dl9pf: yes, I already feeded, so I'll write to -marketing. [17:12:26] <@dl9pf> related to the current topic is: [17:12:48] <@dl9pf> We could link in the announcements to a page and have an up-to-date list of available translations instead of the [17:12:48] <@dl9pf> (imho bad) "(delay)" tags in the announcements. [17:13:13] <@dl9pf> example: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/68/Translations [17:13:21] <@dl9pf> all ready translation just move up [17:14:45] <@dl9pf> what do you think [17:15:28] <@dl9pf> how should we handle incomplete/unavailable translations in the announcements or use such an up-to-date list [17:15:32] <+HeliosReds> Hmmm. 'Always Delayed' makes a bad impression. So I agree with you. [17:15:35] <saigkill> I think it's easier to read. And less work in the Announcemail [17:15:55] <phocean> I like this idea too [17:16:54] <@dl9pf> so we'll prepare the page [17:16:58] <naruoga> I agreed. [17:17:23] <@dl9pf> it will be always http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/<ISSUENR>/Translations [17:18:27] slowhand [n=slowhand@opensuse/member/medwin] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten [17:18:27] ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] hat den Modus +v slowhand gesetzt [17:18:46] <@dl9pf> ok , so delayed translations can just update this page and are done [17:18:48] [PRIVMSG >>> ChanServ]: OP #opensuse-newsletter saigkill [17:18:49] ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] hat den Modus +o saigkill gesetzt [17:19:37] [PRIVMSG >>> ChanServ]: FLAGS #opensuse-newsletter bittin' +V [17:20:01] <@dl9pf> or should we announce all available versions and link to the page for the delayed verions ? [17:20:12] [PRIVMSG >>> ChanServ]: FLAGS #opensuse-newsletter kaza_ +V [17:21:00] <phocean> I think it is better to show all possible version on one page [17:21:01] <@dl9pf> example (just prepairing) [17:21:20] [PRIVMSG >>> ChanServ]: FLAGS #opensuse-newsletter naruoga +V [17:21:25] <@dl9pf> yes, let me prepare an example [17:21:56] [PRIVMSG >>> ChanServ]: #opensuse-newsletter phocean +V [17:22:24] <@dl9pf> example takes to long for now - lets discuss this on the mailinglist [17:22:41] <@dl9pf> i'll summarize in one mail and open a thread [17:23:37] <naruoga> Alright. [17:24:06] <@dl9pf> i'll ping k0de, geoff, [17:24:34] <@dl9pf> and hawake [17:25:07] <@dl9pf> and see what we can do to support them or to find additional ppl [17:25:35] <@dl9pf> any questions/comments left [17:25:35] <@dl9pf> ? [17:25:39] <+HeliosReds> dl9pf: Well, back to the logo issue. Have you asked Novell to permit using our 'new logo' already ? [17:26:03] <@dl9pf> not yet, email will go to permission@novell.com right after this meeting [17:26:21] <+HeliosReds> Thanks. [17:27:28] <@dl9pf> ok, then we're done, thanks for joining our meeting - it was a pleasure ! [17:28:03] <@dl9pf> ths current issue is ready , readymail will be out if our hawk-eye has no objections :D [17:28:19] <@dl9pf> the next meeting will be in 2 weeks, same time, same place [17:28:31] <+slowhand> sorry late. I will read the minutes :-( [17:28:50] <+HeliosReds> OK I'll proofread hereafter. ;-) [17:29:09] <+HeliosReds> kaza_: Are you still keeping awake ? [17:29:47] <naruoga> ...He's going to sleep? [17:30:53] <kaza_> I'm ok. :-) just thinking,,,,, Thanks all! [17:31:31] <+HeliosReds> Why don't you introduce yourself ? [17:32:18] <naruoga> HeliosReds: You shoot good point! [17:33:51] <kaza_> Wow, Thank you, HeliosReds.... I'm Ko Kazaana (aka windhole). joining OWN Japanese translation team. [17:35:14] <@dl9pf> kaza_: welcome again - your expertise and contributions are welcome [17:35:19] <+slowhand> hajimemashite, watashi wa slowhand desu :-) That's all I know in nihon go. Nice to know you kaza_ [17:36:06] <@saigkill> kaza_: Warm welcome :-) [17:37:07] <naruoga> slowhand: Your Japanese is very well :). [17:38:19] <kaza_> Thanks you very much, all! I'm not so good at English, but I'm trying to do more contribution little by little. :-) [17:38:50] <+slowhand> naruoga: I try to learn but it is too difficult for my brain :-) but I really amaze by the kanji symbols [17:40:49] <naruoga> kaza_: we, Japanese OWN team are really trust your knowledge about Linux [17:40:58] <naruoga> and Japanese :). [17:41:38] <naruoga> sloowhand: no problem. I cannot write kanji character well because of using computer. [17:42:02] <naruoga> Oops, sorry for off-topic talk. [17:44:07] <@dl9pf> aah - btw .. gobby is online again ! 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