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Logfile from Meeting Feb 21 2009

24 [13:17:42] <@saigkill> OK. Then we start. 24 [13:18:04] <@saigkill> First of all, i would like to welcome all to the Meeting 24 [13:18:12] <@saigkill> Our Topics: 24 [13:18:20] <@saigkill> Old Actrion Items 24 [13:18:26] <@saigkill> New Action Items 24 [13:18:31] <@saigkill> Q&A 24 [13:18:55] <@saigkill> Topic 1.) Guidlines about Logos, and Counterpixel 24 [13:19:19] <@saigkill> About these 2 Topics Jan has written to Zonker. 24 [13:19:33] <@saigkill> But we haven't an Answer. 24 [13:19:53] <@saigkill> I think we move these Topics to the Next Meeting 24 [13:20:27] <@saigkill> Next Topic "Discuss about a new Icon for Editors Note Section"? 25 [13:20:31] <BenderBRodriguez> all we know is that there are no clear rules and if there are any it's hard to differ if we cross the border or not :) 24 [13:20:59] <@saigkill> Yes this is right. 25 [13:21:17] <+HeliosReds> I saw the topic has told in past Board Meeting, but there was no progress. 24 [13:21:18] <@saigkill> But Zonker says, that they release new Guidelines 25 [13:21:40] <BenderBRodriguez> good, at least we'll know what we are standing on 24 [13:21:42] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: Yes 24 [13:22:33] <@saigkill> Next Topic: Icon for Editors Note Section 24 [13:22:44] <@saigkill> Has anyone Proposals? 25 [13:23:04] <BenderBRodriguez> i had about two weeks ago but forgot now which one i wanted 24 [13:23:16] <@saigkill> hehehe 25 [13:23:32] <BenderBRodriguez> it was something from Oxygen 24 [13:23:47] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: This was your Topic ;-) Have you an Proposal? 25 [13:24:43] <+HeliosReds> Well I wiil find some suitable icon and ask you later. 24 [13:25:34] <@saigkill> OK. We move this to the next Meetings Topic :-) 25 [13:25:41] <BenderBRodriguez> so until we have a suitable icon the topic is opened 2 [13:25:58] <BenderBRodriguez> sorry, you lead saigkill 24 [13:26:14] <@saigkill> No Problem :-) 25 [13:26:15] <jc_phocean> is this a new section ? 25 [13:26:27] <jc_phocean> I haven't seen it yet 24 [13:26:35] <@saigkill> Editors Note is not regularly 24 [13:26:48] <@saigkill> Only if Jan and i have anything to say ;-) 25 [13:26:56] <jc_phocean> ok 24 [13:27:09] <@saigkill> Example: 1 year published Weekly News 24 [13:27:15] <@saigkill> Or Issue 100 25 [13:27:31] <jc_phocean> I see 24 [13:28:09] <@saigkill> Next Topic Localisazion 24 [13:28:33] <@saigkill> Some of us know it, we have 2 new Translators to chinese and french. 24 [13:28:52] <@saigkill> We are saye: "Warm welcome to our Team" 25 [13:29:06] <+HeliosReds> Good News for Weekly News! 24 [13:29:24] <@saigkill> jc_phocean: You are the french Guy? 25 [13:29:44] <jc_phocean> thank you again to all for your warm welcome 25 [13:29:52] <jc_phocean> yes I am 24 [13:30:09] <@saigkill> Would you like to tell us about you? 25 [13:30:31] <jc_phocean> ok... 25 [13:31:17] <jc_phocean> I am 28, a network engineer, I have been using linux since about 3 years ago 25 [13:31:58] <jc_phocean> I have always appreciated SUSE and I decided it was time for me to get more involved 24 [13:33:02] <@saigkill> Very intresting. Thank you for the Insight 25 [13:33:06] <jc_phocean> if you have any question... 24 [13:34:08] <@saigkill> Thanks. I think if we know more about the Person behind the Nick our Team is more personal 25 [13:34:11] <jc_phocean> oh and I have a blog I occasionaly update, if you ever want to have a look : http://www.phocean.net 24 [13:34:49] <@saigkill> I have a look to them :-) 25 [13:35:11] <jc_phocean> thanks ;) 25 [13:35:25] <+HeliosReds> Enchante! I googled just now. ;-) 25 [13:35:42] <jc_phocean> HeliosReds, lol ;) 24 [13:35:55] <@saigkill> Then our next Topic is Picking up articles from Novell Side 24 [13:36:08] <@saigkill> I think this is HeliosReds Topic? 25 [13:36:11] <jc_phocean> sorry 25 [13:36:18] <jc_phocean> but I have a question 24 [13:36:24] <@saigkill> Yes 25 [13:36:27] <jc_phocean> something is not very clear to me 24 [13:36:39] <@saigkill> Just ask 25 [13:36:42] <+HeliosReds> Have you read the link http://en.opensuse.org/User_talk:HeliosReds#Picking_up_articles_from_Novell_site 25 [13:36:58] <jc_phocean> how to you synchronise ? when I happen to finish the translation, what am I suppose to do ? 25 [13:37:24] <+HeliosReds> I wanted to help colecting articles. 24 [13:37:35] <@saigkill> Then you go to the Readytable. YOu find it in the OpenSUSE_Weekly_News Protal 63 [13:37:46] Beineri, Group "Voreinstellungen" is on IRC as (Beineri [n=Beineri@kde/binner]) 2 [13:37:59] <jc_phocean> saigkill, ok I missed it I guess 24 [13:38:09] <@saigkill> No Problem :-) 25 [13:38:36] <+HeliosReds> And I found there are some nice articles on Novell site. 25 [13:39:05] <+HeliosReds> So I asked Novell to permit pick up them for our News. 25 [13:39:36] <+HeliosReds> But I can't get the answer. 25 [13:40:07] <+HeliosReds> So I wont ask you: Have someone asked Novell about this and got permissions already ? 24 [13:40:17] <@saigkill> Hmm. I think, if the Articles are for Press Release, we can use it too. 25 [13:40:26] <BenderBRodriguez> hmm, i reckon that if it is online then it is for everyone to see 24 [13:40:29] <@saigkill> But better we ask the Helpdesk 25 [13:41:10] <BenderBRodriguez> so simply giving a link and an intro on our newsletter shouldn't be bad 25 [13:41:41] <+HeliosReds> Some articles would be no Planet SUSE and It has no problem IMHO. 25 [13:42:04] <+HeliosReds> would be on 24 [13:42:07] <@saigkill> Are this Article from "OpenPR" or other stuff? 25 [13:42:29] <+HeliosReds> Case by case , I think... 25 [13:42:58] <BenderBRodriguez> we could always discuss doubtful articles 24 [13:43:20] <@saigkill> I think we asking Zonker. He is our Connection to Novell 25 [13:43:53] <BenderBRodriguez> good idea 25 [13:44:07] <+HeliosReds> So, you are for "Ask Zonker or board to act as intermediary"? 24 [13:44:17] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: Would you like to ask Zonker? 25 [13:44:32] <+HeliosReds> OK I'll ask him later. 24 [13:44:58] <@saigkill> Then i put this Topic to the next Meeting as Status Report 25 [13:45:28] <BenderBRodriguez> hmmm, it's a good idea to search for articles on Novell but they would have to be somehow connected with openSUSE or the community right? 25 [13:46:25] <+HeliosReds> Almost articles are about SLE, but some are related to openSUSE. 24 [13:47:30] <@saigkill> So i think we're finished this Topic 24 [13:47:41] <@saigkill> Next Topic: Q&A 24 [13:47:52] <@saigkill> Feedback about workflow 24 [13:48:12] <@saigkill> Any Feedback or Proposals about workflow 25 [13:48:28] <BenderBRodriguez> i always think about changing that ready table :) 25 [13:48:45] <BenderBRodriguez> if someone would know a little bit HTML we could make a nice table :) 24 [13:48:47] <@saigkill> What would you like to change? 24 [13:49:41] <@saigkill> The Idea behind an ASCII Art is that the change is very easy. You mark "X" and then done... 25 [13:49:55] <BenderBRodriguez> i get that 24 [13:49:56] <@saigkill> In an html or wiki Table you must search 25 [13:50:24] <BenderBRodriguez> for example the sections on ready table on the top of that table 25 [13:51:17] <BenderBRodriguez> putting them on the right side, the country letters on the top 24 [13:51:58] <@saigkill> You can make an Example on the bottom from these Page 25 [13:52:03] <BenderBRodriguez> and make a small pop-up window when holdind the mouse pointer for a second over the section or country code to see who made it 24 [13:52:06] <@saigkill> Then we can vote vor 24 [13:52:09] <@saigkill> for 25 [13:52:13] <BenderBRodriguez> ok 25 [13:52:19] <BenderBRodriguez> i'll work on that :) 24 [13:52:24] <@saigkill> Hehehe 25 [13:52:32] <+HeliosReds> BenderBRodriguez: In that case, how about signature ? 20 [13:52:36] IsoreHalav [n=gabriel@74.9.73.109] hat #opensuse-newsletter betreten 25 [13:53:11] <BenderBRodriguez> could be 24 [13:53:12] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: Good Question 25 [13:53:22] <+HeliosReds> Where should we sign ? 25 [13:53:35] <BenderBRodriguez> as i said :) 25 [13:53:51] <BenderBRodriguez> making a small pop-up with our signature under the country code 25 [13:54:11] <BenderBRodriguez> i don't know how to call it :) 25 [13:54:20] <BenderBRodriguez> it's some java script 25 [13:54:43] <BenderBRodriguez> it is possible to use normal html code on wiki-like site? 25 [13:54:59] <+HeliosReds> Can we include javascript in the Wiki ? That's great! 25 [13:55:28] <BenderBRodriguez> oh, the pop-up i mean like when holding the pointer under english for example, small window pop's up 24 [13:55:35] <@saigkill> I think we must try it out 25 [13:55:38] <BenderBRodriguez> when on the ready page 25 [13:56:06] <BenderBRodriguez> ill work on that, suck some source code from other sites (my HTML skills are at least bad :) ) 25 [13:56:43] <+HeliosReds> I'm looking forward to it. :-) 24 [13:57:23] <@saigkill> BenderBRodriguez: You can make Proposals on the bottom from the Page. I'm very interested... 25 [13:57:43] <BenderBRodriguez> i will then, when i come back home 25 [13:57:58] <IsoreHalav> Hi @all, am I to late for the meeting? 24 [13:58:15] <@saigkill> A lil bit ;-) 24 [13:58:42] <@saigkill> Now i think we can go to our next Topic. 25 [13:58:46] <BenderBRodriguez> ok then, my proposal is finished, i'll send some mockups :) on the proposal site then 25 [13:58:48] <IsoreHalav> :-) sorry guys, I just moved to the USA. I'm still trying to get into the new timezone 24 [13:59:09] <@saigkill> Feedback about workload 24 [13:59:36] <@saigkill> Any questions or ideas about workload? 25 [14:00:12] <BenderBRodriguez> still thinking... 25 [14:01:09] <BenderBRodriguez> i have no other ideas 24 [14:02:38] <@saigkill> And HeliosReds, IsoreHalav, jc_phocean? 25 [14:02:52] <+HeliosReds> Not too heavy for me right now. :-) 2 [14:03:24] <IsoreHalav> Sorry saigkill, are you talking about workload to translate the news? 24 [14:03:27] <@saigkill> I know. Youre maximized your workflow with FATE Screening Team ;-) 25 [14:03:42] <BenderBRodriguez> :-) 24 [14:03:43] <@saigkill> IsoreHalav: Yes 25 [14:03:43] <IsoreHalav> I'm out of topic here :-) 25 [14:04:19] <IsoreHalav> Not heavy at all 24 [14:04:41] <@saigkill> So i think, that we can enter our last Topic from this Session: Feedback about possible improvements. 25 [14:05:07] <+HeliosReds> About official meeting 25 [14:05:32] <BenderBRodriguez> i have an idea 25 [14:05:44] <+HeliosReds> AlpVonKri said it's too early for his timezone. 25 [14:05:58] <BenderBRodriguez> what if we would make a section where people could leave some feedback and ideas? 24 [14:06:15] <@saigkill> You can use the Dashboard 25 [14:06:38] <BenderBRodriguez> i didn't see too many people contributing there:-/ 24 [14:06:56] <@saigkill> Yes thats right ;-) you can start with it... 24 [14:07:20] <@saigkill> HeliosReds: What Time is better for AlpVonKri? 25 [14:07:22] <BenderBRodriguez> :) 25 [14:07:24] <IsoreHalav> One idea is to create our onw mailling list and use it to start threads about the topics of the meeting. So anyone can contribute prior to the meeting 24 [14:07:27] <@saigkill> Who he lives? 24 [14:07:35] <@saigkill> Where he lives? 25 [14:08:19] <+HeliosReds> He said his timezone is UTC-6 and the meeting starts at 6:00 AM 25 [14:08:49] <BenderBRodriguez> oh crap 25 [14:09:10] <BenderBRodriguez> we'd have to make two meetings 24 [14:09:12] <@saigkill> I think we make an special voting Mail for all Members. So they can vote without IRC. And then we fix the MeetingTime 25 [14:09:25] <+HeliosReds> Since I live in Japan and our timezone is +9:00 25 [14:09:56] <+HeliosReds> I'm living in the future than you all. ;-) 25 [14:10:01] <IsoreHalav> I know what he means, I'm on UTC -5 now the reason I was late. 25 [14:10:13] <BenderBRodriguez> what about creating our own mailing list and we could all discuss everything in it's free time? 24 [14:10:39] <@saigkill> I ask for an own Mailinglist 24 [14:11:03] <@saigkill> But for this Problem, i think i wrote an voting Mail to -marketing 25 [14:11:05] <BenderBRodriguez> as it's obvious it's impossible for all contributors to appear on the meeting due to time zones 24 [14:11:16] <@saigkill> Normally all are subscribet there 25 [14:11:36] <BenderBRodriguez> that's true 25 [14:11:59] <BenderBRodriguez> but the newsletter ideas aren't always interesiting for the marketing list :) 24 [14:12:04] <@saigkill> But you're right- We must discuss at an own Place for Mailinglisats 24 [14:12:24] <@saigkill> BenderBRodriguez: +1 25 [14:12:45] <IsoreHalav> BenderBRodriguez: +1 25 [14:13:17] <+HeliosReds> +1 25 [14:13:25] <BenderBRodriguez> so our own mailing list is a must then :-) 24 [14:13:34] <@saigkill> So i think, we can close this official Meeting. I'm writing for an own List 24 [14:14:01] <@saigkill> I placed the en60.txt in Gobby 25 [14:14:02] <+HeliosReds> But I hope we contunue to have IRC Meeting, though. 24 [14:14:56] <@saigkill> Then i send the Readymail, with en60.txt too...