Meetings/Project Meeting 2008-05-07/transcript

--- Log opened Wed May 07 13:59:18 2008 13:59 @<henne> Welcome to the openSUSE Project Meeting! 13:59 @<henne> This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. 14:00 @<henne> The agenda for this meeting is: 14:00 @<henne> 1. Old Action Items 14:00 @<henne> 2. Status Questions 14:00 @<henne> 3. Q & A 14:00 @<henne> First topic: Old Action Items 14:00 @<henne> you can find them at this url: http://tinyurl.com/2pr9qs 14:00 @<henne> Bug #164761 14:01 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 164761 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] built service trust/rating system" [Normal,Assigned] https://bugzilla.novell.com/164761 14:01 <mmeeks> coolo: just poking at patterns-openSUSE.spec 14:01 <mmeeks> coolo: is the . /.buildenv an obvious typo ? ;-) 14:01 @<henne> adrianS: new here? 14:01 @<henne> news 14:01 <coolo> mmeeks: -> opensuse-factory 14:02 <Beineri> coolo: you learn! :-) 14:03 @<henne> michl: can you say something about marco? 14:03 <}-Tux-{> henne: i think someone is going to start working on it (see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2008-05/msg00054.html) 14:03 <michl> which marco? 14:03 <Beineri> Marco Jung 14:03 <michl> Marko Jung? 14:03 <michl> his here for 3 or 4 months doing his diploma thesis 14:04 <michl> and will work on the trust system 14:04 <michl> that's what I know 14:05 @<henne> k 14:05 <michl> adrainS knows more 14:05 <coolo> Beineri: the meeting every second week is the time where I understand the need of a special channel 14:05 @<henne> okay 14:05 @<henne> Bug #223290 14:05 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 223290 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] better wishlist handling using FATE" [Normal,Needinfo] https://bugzilla.novell.com/223290 14:05 @<henne> as far is i know there are no news here 14:06 <dragotin> hi 14:06 @<henne> dragotin knows more for sure 14:06 <dragotin> about what? 14:06 @<henne> Bug #223290 14:06 * dragotin starts the engine 14:06 @<henne> openFATE :) 14:07 <dragotin> yes 14:07 <dragotin> we're having lengthy discussions with internal infrastructure teams 14:07 <dragotin> but we're making progress 14:08 <dragotin> it seems as if we can find a way now how to set up the whole chain of servers 14:08 <dragotin> in short: WIP, with good progress recently 14:08 @<henne> cool 14:08 @<henne> dragotin: can you update the AI then? 14:08 <dragotin> however I personally expect some not yet seen efforts later when it comes to the webapp adoption in details 14:08 <dragotin> but lets see 14:08 <dragotin> ähn 14:09 <dragotin> yes 14:09 @<henne> thanks 14:09 @<henne> notlocalhorst: i dont need to ask you about the cn and babel wikis or? 14:10 <notlocalhorst> no, but news: progress in the the wiki version, i hope i have it in stage next week 14:10 @<henne> k 14:10 @<henne> the last on is for dragotin again :) 14:10 @<henne> Bug #343444 14:10 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 343444 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] bugzilla wizard to qualify bugreports" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/343444 14:11 <dragotin> humpf 14:11 @<henne> still no resources to look at it? 14:11 <dragotin> no, sorry 14:11 <dragotin> and to be honest: I do not really see a way to do that 14:11 @<henne> k then i close it 14:12 <dragotin> that could be tried to be routed through the bugzilla team in novell 14:12 <dragotin> reassign to edith 14:12 <jpr> so upstream in gnome at least 14:12 <jpr> there are some tools like dupe finder 14:12 <jpr> that searches for duplicate stack traces 14:12 <jpr> to help manage the count 14:12 <dragotin> she could bring that up in the bugzilla steering comitee 14:12 <jpr> would that be helpful here? 14:13 @<henne> the idea was to have a more guided procedure to enter bugreports 14:13 <dragotin> jpr: I think the only way to change bnc is over the bugzilla steering commitee 14:13 * Beineri thinks bugs.kde.org has an improved version of the gnome stack trace checker... 14:13 @<henne> not about already reported bugreports 14:13 <dragotin> henne: I reassign it to edith, ok? 14:13 @<henne> dragotin: yes sure 14:13 <jpr> right, but if we can't validate those, at least we can automate some other part 14:15 @<henne> true but bugzilla team might be the right team to do so 14:15 @<henne> lets see what they say :) 14:15 <jpr> yes, but I think we need someone to poke them and i presume thats edith :-0 14:15 @<henne> jpr: can you put your idea in the AI? 14:15 <dragotin> at least we have to involve them through their official gateway :) 14:15 <jpr> henne: sure 14:15 * jpr makes a task 14:16 @<henne> so they have some better explenation what we are looking for 14:16 <dragotin> yes, that would be great 14:16 @<henne> Beineri: you too with bugs.kde.org? 14:17 * Beineri thinks dirk or coolo know more about bugs.kde.org than him 14:17 @<henne> ok 14:17 <dirk> I don't think it is reusable per se, as both b.g.o and b.k.o use a very old version of bugzilla 14:17 * coolo too 14:17 <dragotin> shouldn't we think what we would like to see and not what we can find in dark corners? 14:18 @<henne> may be but it might show our bugzilla team what we want :) 14:18 <dragotin> k 14:18 <dirk> its all about convincing the bugzilla steering comittee ;) 14:19 @<henne> yeah 14:19 @<henne> okay that leaves Bug #382885 14:19 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 382885 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] Announce LinuxTag and openSUSE day" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/382885 14:19 @<henne> notlocalhorst? 14:19 <notlocalhorst> yep, later 14:19 @<henne> this week yes? 14:20 <notlocalhorst> today 14:20 @<henne> k 14:20 @<henne> thats it with action items 14:20 @<henne> next topic is status questions 14:20 @<henne> you can find the status mails (if they exist) linked from the meeting page 14:21 @<henne> are there any questions regarding them here? 14:21 @<henne> none? :) 14:22 @<henne> okay 14:22 @<henne> the third and last topic 14:22 @<henne> Q&A 14:23 * uberChick raises hand. 14:23 @<henne> does anyone have any more general questions? 14:23 @<henne> uberChick: go ahead 14:24 @<henne> helllo? :) 14:25 <uberChick> I'm working on the women's community website. It'll be at http://opensuse.uberchicks.net/ I'd like this to fit the theme that goes across openSuSEs other sites; news, software, etc. So: 14:26 <[daemon]> henne: can't we give her a own page on opensuse.org? 14:26 <uberChick> May I use the layout, but with its own unique color scheme &etc? What licence there be for the logo &etc? 14:27 <adrianS> uberChick: best is to get in contact with Robert Lihm <rlihm@suse.de> 14:27 @<henne> [daemon]: that AI was open for months before we closed it 14:27 <adrianS> uberChick: he does the design for all of our sites 14:27 <MagicGeeko> It's under a CC license 14:27 <MagicGeeko> uberChick: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team#Skin_Management 14:27 <apokryphos> uberChick: the template is in svn, for details on logo use: http://en.opensuse.org/Artwork:Brand (basically, you can use the geeko head or another lizard, but not the full logo) 14:27 <adrianS> uberChick: we can host the sources of the site in the opensuse svn as well, beside all of our other sites ? 14:27 <uberChick> [daemon]: that'd be extremely helpful &much more accessible, integrated, &adds the feeling of the rest of the communities support. 14:28 * [daemon] steps in front of uberChick 14:28 <[daemon]> henne: she wasnt feeling well and "our" chicks didn't care 14:28 <adrianS> uberChick: we can also offer you a vhost on our community server with shell login, if you like ? 14:28 @<henne> so lets just reopen the AI 14:29 <uberChick> MagicGeeko: Thank, that's a major help. 14:29 * [daemon] bows 14:29 <MagicGeeko> uberChick: just contact me (fs@suse.de) or Robert with skin questions 14:30 * Beineri raises hand too 14:30 @<henne> uberChick: whats your bugzilla mail? 14:30 <uberChick> apokryphos: Killer! svn.opensuse.org/? do you have the layouts co URI 14:30 @<henne> Beineri: noted 14:31 <adrianS> uberChick: it is actually in svn co https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/opensuse/trunk/infrastructure 14:31 <adrianS> uberChick: we have there all the stuff from our public servers 14:32 <adrianS> uberChick: I can create you an svn account and you could host woman.o.o there as well 14:32 <uberChick> I've talked to Robert, he's been a killer help. But our official site is Rails... [avoids boring on going babble] &I'm a PHP developer. 14:32 <captain_magnus> woman or women? 14:32 <adrianS> uberChick: but you can work closely together with Robert and Frank 14:32 <adrianS> or women or both ;) 14:33 @<henne> and we should track this in the bugzilla action item 14:33 @<henne> uberChick: i need your novell account email address please 14:33 @<henne> uberChick: or add yourself to Bug #352722 14:33 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 352722 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] women.opensuse.org - get more women involved in openSUSE" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] https://bugzilla.novell.com/352722 14:33 <uberChick> uberChicGeekChick@uberChicGeekChick.Com 14:34 <[daemon]> :) 14:34 @<henne> this is not your novell login email address 14:35 <MagicGeeko> adrianS: Rails and PHP shouldn't be a problem for o.o or am I wrong? 14:35 <adrianS> MagicGeeko: PHP might be ... 14:35 <adrianS> Rails defintive not 14:36 <MagicGeeko> adrianS: mod_php is enabled 14:36 <adrianS> MagicGeeko: yes, but it is used for hidden board stuff ;) 14:36 <adrianS> so there might be a privacy problem 14:36 * captain_magnus starts looking for the hidden stuff 14:36 <adrianS> but we should be able to find a solution for that .... 14:37 <adrianS> however, Rails can be setup up immediatly, PHP might take a bit more ... 14:37 <uberChick> I've already written the back end. 14:38 <MagicGeeko> adrianS: I do not see any a problem and I do not see why the board stuff should be affected when enabling PHP for another vhost 14:38 @<henne> okay then sort that out in private please 14:38 @<henne> details 14:38 @<henne> little Beineri had a question too 14:38 <Beineri> what is the state of the board election after the whole election mode discussion died some weeks ago? 14:39 @<henne> AJaeger, apokryphos, yaloki, coolo? :) 14:39 <uberChick> That's why I'm now ready for the layout &etc... mostly needed permission. 14:39 <apokryphos> we discussed it again in our last meeting and some additional issues were raised 14:39 <coolo> Beineri: the board is currently discussing how to organize the election 14:39 <uberChick> MagicGeeko: awesome &major thnx. 14:40 <coolo> Beineri: and we don't think the discussion died. We just reached another level 14:40 <coolo> the basic is discussed and agreed upon in the project 14:40 <coolo> now we're targeting details 14:41 <adrianS> uberChick: are you interessted to host women.o.o on our server ? 14:41 <jbrockmeier> coolo: where is the discussion? 14:41 @<henne> any other questions? 14:41 <adrianS> uberChick: in that case we would clarify this 14:41 <uberChick> one more 14:41 <coolo> jbrockmeier: the board discussion? on the board list 14:41 * Beineri would be happy to regularly read some board status, even if it's "the board reached another level" of spiritual existence 14:42 <coolo> Beineri: yeah, AJaeger took the "regular status reports" action items 14:42 <coolo> and le presidente did not deliver I guess :) 14:44 * Beineri looks out for the AI bot ;-) 14:44 @<henne> okay 14:44 @<henne> anything else? 14:44 <uberChick> Would there be any interest for an openSuSE podcast. Mostly I've only outline covering our newsletter, announcement, &meeting notes. Than maybe an interview over Gizmo or Telepathy(I have issues) w/an opensuse hacker, contributor, user, or someone from build service, et. al. 14:45 * uberChick wheels to lil girls room! 14:45 * Beineri would listen 14:45 * coolo is fine with music on the ears :) 14:45 <Beineri> coolo: I don't think that she wants to sing the newsletter... 14:45 <jbrockmeier> uberChick: I'm doing some Novell open audio podcasts - but the more the merrier 14:47 <adrianS> uberChick: drop me a mail, if you want to it about build service -> adrian@suse.de 14:47 <coolo> now on to "Concerto op 7 No.12" of L'estro armonico 14:48 @<henne> okay: women, elections and a podcast 14:48 @<henne> anything else we need to discuss? 14:48 <coolo> this meeting is always about women - as far as I remember 14:48 <madferret> yawn 14:49 <uberChick> jbrockmeier & adrianS awesome & major thnx. *sqwee!* 14:49 @<henne> Okay that was it then. If you have more, dont hesitate to bring it up on the appropriate mailinglist. 14:49 @<henne> The next project meeting will be at the 21st of May. Same channel but this time at 17:00 GMT!!! 14:49 @<henne> The next meeting is the KDE meeting next week at 18:00 GMT over at #opensuse-kde. 14:49 @<henne> Thank you all for participating. Good night and good luck! 14:49 <Beineri> henne: more like 16:00 GMT? 14:50 @<henne> FFS 14:50 <[daemon]> over and out 14:50 @<henne> of course 16:00 GMT --- Log closed Wed May 07 14:50:40 2008