Meetings/Project Meeting 2008-03-05/transcript

18:01 <@AJaeger> I'd like to welcome everybody to today's openSUSE meeting. The agenda is so far: 18:02 <@AJaeger> 1. Old Action Items 2. Status Questions 1. Board 1. Board Election Discussion 2. Distribution 1. Status Week 10 3. Communication / Events 4. Build Service 1. Status Week 9 2. Status Week 10 3. Q & A 1. From Wiki (see Q&A section below) 2. From Channel 18:02 < [daemon]> aua 18:02 <@AJaeger> Let's start with the old Action items: 18:02 <@AJaeger> 164761: [AI] built service trust/rating system Adrian Schroeter 18:03 <@AJaeger> adrianS: what is the status here? 18:03 <@AJaeger> 223290: [AI] better wishlist handling using FATE : Christopher Hoffmann 18:04 <@AJaeger> 343444: [AI] bugzilla wizard to qualify bugreports : Klaas Freitag 18:04 < _Marcus_> dont seem to be here? 18:04 <@AJaeger> 238355: [AI] status of cn wiki: Martin Lasarsch 18:04 <@Beineri> .oO( is it lunch time? ) 18:05 < _Marcus_> martin is at cebit i think 18:05 <@AJaeger> 293726 [AI] Creation of Babel wiki : Martin Lasarsch 18:05 <@AJaeger> _Marcus_: Yes, correct - but I wanted to go through all of them... 18:05 <@AJaeger> 352722: [AI] women.opensuse.org - get more women involved in openSUSE: Sonja Krause Harder 18:06 <@AJaeger> skh: Are you here? 18:06 <@AJaeger> Ok, I have to summarize: No changes to old AIs :-( 18:06 * Beineri hands the "quickest 'old action items' ever"-award over to AJaeger.... 18:07 * AJaeger would have liked to see these solved instead 18:07 <@AJaeger> ok, next topic: Status questions 18:07 <@AJaeger> 1) board - Board Election Discussion 18:08 <@AJaeger> Pascal send an email to openSUSE-project asking on how to elect the next board. 18:08 <@AJaeger> Any comments, suggestions, questions? 18:08 < bgerber> I think the email list is the best for this 18:09 < _Marcus_> there already is a long therad on the list :/ 18:09 <@AJaeger> Anything else on the board? 18:09 < captain_magnus_> AJaeger: I wouldn't mind if someone could clarify why there is a distinction between the 2 Novell positions and the 2 Community Positions... 18:09 < bgerber> yes and to duplicate it here is not a good idea 18:09 < captain_magnus_> AJaeger: I mean, offically step in and explain it to people 18:09 < captain_magnus_> ...on the ml 18:12 < mrdocs> joy netsplits 18:13 < suseROCKs> ahh so it wasn't me 18:13 <@Beineri> AJaeger chose the wrong side ;-) 18:13 < mrdocs> freenode was under a ddos today, maybe a side effect 18:13 * mrdocs wonders if AJ knows he talking to himself ? :) 18:14 < suseROCKs> This is the first time I've attended a -project meeting. Can't say I'm impressed. hehe  :-) 18:14 < captain_magnus_> Dum de dum... 18:15 < bgerber> Usually they are really good. 18:15 < suseROCKs> or was netsplit on the agenda? 18:15 <@Beineri> suseROCKs: everyone already tired after today's opensuse-projects discussion? ;-) 18:15 < bgerber> Although today the AI went the quickest I have seen 18:16 < suseROCKs> Beineri yes you can imagine my dismay waking up and finding my mailbox clogged  :-) 18:16 < michl19> but even without aj we can go ahead, can't we? 18:16 < bgerber> I would never have guessed there would be so much discussion 18:17 < michl19> discusson on board election on ml, correct? 18:17 < bgerber> yes 18:17 < michl19> so next topic status distribution 18:17 < michl19> coolo: speak up 18:18 < michl19> AJaeger: we agreed on having the board discussion on ml 18:18 < michl19> and are now at status distribution 18:18 < michl19> but coolo doesn't speak up 18:18 < suseROCKs> Didn't we just vote to only allow one netsplit during today's meeting?  :-) 18:19 < AJaeger> we lost some server :-( 18:19 * Iznogood suggest we postpone the meeting, if this is going to continue 18:19 * AJaeger waits some minutes... 18:19 * captain_magnus_ will make himself a coffee... at 4.20am in the morning 18:19 <@Beineri> AJaeger: to me it looks like everyone is back? 18:20 * AJaeger wonders... 18:20 * AJaeger welcomes everybody back 18:20 < suseROCKs> Beineri do a roll call. Those who are not present raise their hands. 18:20 < AJaeger> Beineri: Yes, numbers match up again. 18:20 < AJaeger> Ok, then next topic "Communication / Events " 18:21 < AJaeger> Martin is not here either. 18:21 < AJaeger> Does anybody like to bring anything up? 18:21 < bgerber> what about status distribution? 18:21 < AJaeger> bgerber: Let's handle it the same way -coolo is not awake. Anything you like to bring up? 18:21 < bgerber> 11 alpha 2+ 18:22 < AJaeger> bgerber: "+" stands for an internal version. And it's "11.0" not just "11" ;-) 18:22 < _Marcus__> the way i see it misused, everyone will say 11 :/ 18:22 < AJaeger> bgerber: I don't know the status of 2+ - haven't seen it yet. 18:23 < bgerber> ok, I just have some problems with factory at the moment. 18:23 < AJaeger> bgerber: Any specific problems? 18:23 < dirk> iirc 2+ is blocked by a yast crash during installation (I heard something like that) 18:23 < AJaeger> coolo worked hard to get factory working again. 18:23 < bgerber> General from bug list should be solved with update 18:24 < bgerber> wondering on update 18:24 < bgerber> that is what I heard as well. 18:25 < vuntz> dirk: the crash has been fixed, iirc 18:26 < bgerber> From what I can tell we are waiting on the update to be synced 18:28 * AJaeger is a bit frustrated that too many people miss the meeting today :-( 18:29 < dirk> vuntz: indeed, just read that in the opensuse-factory status report 18:29 < dirk> I think that one covers everything 18:29 < dirk> ..except for the 2+ release date 18:29 < AJaeger> bgerber: Next sync should happen soon - we just need to figure out who did this: 18:29 < AJaeger> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2106-02-07 06:28 newestfile 18:29 <@Beineri> lol 18:30 < cboltz> Please save all sources from this point in time ;-) 18:31 < AJaeger> Ok, so let's move on to general Q & A - if it makes sense today without adrian, martin, zonker, coolo etc. 18:31 < AJaeger> there're no questions on the wiki - so let me open this up directly here. 18:31 <@Beineri> does that mean the future of openSUSE is assured until 2106? :-) 18:32 < _Marcus_> - the opensuse-de list had a thread where people think that we fix not enough bugs in 10.3 ... but I think I got that realigned a bit ;) 18:32 < AJaeger> Beineri: Rudi knows to use touch 18:32 < bgerber> maybe 18:32 <@Beineri> AJaeger: are you trying to fix the syncing NOW? 18:33 < AJaeger> Beineri: Just asked Rudi ;-) 18:34 < AJaeger> bgerber: What do you mean? Should we fix more bugs? 18:34 < bgerber> That was _Marcus_ 18:35 < bgerber> I was refering to the date and openSUSE in 2106 18:35 < [daemon]> AJaeger: we need more mobile devices and UMTS :) 18:35 < AJaeger> bgerber: I misunderstood your "maybe" perhaps a wee bit. 18:35 < bgerber> My only problem is the repair system. 18:35 < bgerber> for 10.3 18:35 < _Marcus_> AJaeger: the people think wwe should more bugs in 10.3. ;) 18:36 < AJaeger> We have quite a lot of open bugs in 10.3 ;-( 18:36 < cb400f> too bad albertop isn't here :-) 18:36 < _Marcus_> take it just as comment, it was no Q and no A ;) 18:36 < bgerber> I do have a problem with install and upgrade on one system. I have to mount click and unmout to to the install 18:37 < bgerber> where 10.2 just works 18:38 < AJaeger> bgerber: hope you did file a proper bugreport... 18:38 < bgerber> Yes, but it was closed. I gave the instructions. 18:38 < AJaeger> Ok, I think we can conclude the meeting for today. Any objections? 18:38 < bgerber> I guess it was closed because I had a work around 18:39 < AJaeger> bgerber: Send me (aj@suse.de) privately the bug number and let me check it briefly... 18:39 < bgerber> ok a little later I am not where I can look it up. 18:40 < AJaeger> bgerber: no hurry, I need some time as well ;-) 18:40 < bgerber> That is all I have 18:41 < AJaeger> Ok, let's meet again formally in two weeks...