18:00 @<henne> Welcome to the openSUSE Project Meeting! 18:01 @<henne> This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. 18:01 @<henne> The topics for this meeting are: 18:01 @<henne> 0. Old Action Items 18:01 @<henne> 1. Status Questions 18:01 @<henne> 2. Questions & Answers wiki/channel 18:01 @<henne> Lets go!

18:01 @<henne> first topic: Old Action Items 18:02 @<henne> you find the list at: http://tinyurl.com/2zgf3w 18:02 @<henne> notlocalhorst: the SDB/HOWTO guide is done right? Bug #164757 18:02 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 164757 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] SDB style guide / differences SDB, HOWTO" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=164757 18:02 <notlocalhorst> it's not final, but yes looks good 18:03 <notlocalhorst> should be done very sone 18:03 @<henne> anyone knows any news on the merchandising shop? 18:04 @<henne> Bug #173961 18:04 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 173961 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] openSUSE merchandising" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=173961 18:04 <notlocalhorst> we are waiting for michl 18:04 @<henne> okay 18:04 @<henne> The installation videos are nicely done. Bug #223288 18:05 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 223288 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] create installation/usage videos" [Major,Assigned] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223288 18:05 @<henne> we just need a news article referencing them 18:05 @<henne> notlocalhorst will you write one? 18:05 <notlocalhorst> see my latest entry 18:05 <notlocalhorst> in the bug 18:05 @<henne> ah i see 18:05 @<henne> okay then this is also done 18:05 <notlocalhorst> http://en.opensuse.org/Videos 18:05 @<henne> Beineri: please pick it up 18:05 <Beineri> yeah, notlocalhorst already asked 18:06 @<henne> cool :) 18:06 @<henne> al lthe feature handling stuff: Bug #223290 18:06 <cb400f> any other videos planned? 18:06 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 223290 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] better wishlist handling using FATE" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223290 18:07 <cb400f> like software installation for example 18:07 @<henne> cb400f: like? 18:07 <notlocalhorst> cb400f: yes, partitioning is next on my list 18:07 <Beineri> cb400f: if you want to found a screencast team :-)... 18:07 <cb400f> maybe just a general on how to navigate a kde desktop 18:07 <cb400f> hmm 18:07 <notlocalhorst> cb400f: and of course you can do also one 18:07 <apokryphos> albertop has also expressed an interesting in making some; could poke him later 18:07 <apokryphos> *interest 18:07 @<henne> the hardest part is finding a narrator... 18:08 @<henne> okay all the feature handling stuff: Bug #328611 or #223290 18:08 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 328611 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] Try out wishlist handling / feature tracking in the wiki" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328611 18:08 <cboltz> What about producing a "making of" video? This could help (new) authors... 18:09 @<henne> are blocked by the preparation of the fate presentation 18:09 <notlocalhorst> cboltz: right, should be added to the page 18:09 <cboltz> OK, I'll add it. 18:09 <jpr> yes 18:09 <jpr> do we have an ETA on the fate presentation? 18:09 <jpr> it came up again internally on the research list 18:10 @<henne> jpr: i poked klaas again 18:10 <jpr> (more votes for wiki btw) 18:10 <federico1> fate scares me 18:10 <jpr> another interesting idea was to port the doku wiki 18:10 <jpr> stuff to media wiki 18:10 <Beineri> federico1: because? 18:10 <jpr> which i hadn't thought of 18:11 @<henne> jpr: you mean the content or the plugins and stuff? 18:11 <cyberorg> jpr, idea is dokuwiki(i've said that before) 18:11 <jpr> henne: both 18:11 <r0cketman> Sorry all, I joined in the entire fate discussion late. Is fate the enhancement request process we use internally? If so, I have a PDF I've created as a quick start... 18:12 <jpr> cyberorg: yah, but we could port idea to mediawiki (maybe) 18:12 <jpr> cyberorg: i also got an offer of the data as well 18:12 @<henne> r0cketman: not exactly. there is a different frontend for partners. see the bug(s) 18:12 <r0cketman> Thx 18:12 <jpr> anyhow, rc is only like 6 months away 18:12 <jpr> we need a solution fast 18:13 @<henne> yes we might get something before that ;) 18:13 <jpr> or we'll have a hard time involving external novell people 18:13 <jpr> henne: yah, but getting it 1 month before is useless 18:13 @<henne> i know 18:13 <jpr> feature planning is going on now 18:13 @<henne> i have to push it up on klaas TODO 18:14 @<henne> then we can decide 18:14 <jpr> ok 18:14 @<henne> notlocalhorst: anything new on the unmaintained wiki front? Bug #238350 18:14 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 238350 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] unmaintained wikis" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=238350 18:15 <notlocalhorst> no response from the recommended ppl so far, i added a banner 18:15 @<henne> sad... 18:15 <notlocalhorst> i will write it to the mailinglist .... 18:15 @<henne> okay 18:15 <jpr> have we announced we need maintainers on opensuse@ or opensuse-announce@? 18:15 <federico1> Beineri: I don't know... it's a complicated tool, you need to learn it; I'm afraid it may look like too much work for community contributors :) 18:16 <jpr> federico1: its partnerfate, not internal fate 18:16 @<henne> yeah which is a web frontend afaik 18:16 <mw> it's still Yet Another Tool That Nobody Else Uses :( 18:16 <notlocalhorst> jpr: no, thats what i want to do .. but i have planed something else, more on the wiki list soon 18:17 <jpr> no one has a universal tool for features 18:17 @<henne> mw: like dokuwiki or anything else we use for it 18:17 <Bille> henne: sorry to jump in late, are you not happy with the Bille-ish narration? 18:17 <jpr> ubuntu is proprietary and fedora 18:17 <jpr> is wiki templates 18:17 <jpr> nothing is standard here 18:17 <jpr> Bille: aye, we are laddy 18:17 @<henne> Bille: im more than happy but i guess you dont want to do it as fulltime job do you? ;) 18:17 <Beineri> Bille: I guess he doesn't expect to be able to oblige you for every video :-) 18:18 <Bille> henne: na, but given a bit more warning i don't mind doing it regularly 18:18 @<henne> cool 18:18 <Bille> just keep me in Fisherman's Friends 18:19 @<henne> okay next AI: notlocalhorst: chinese wiki Bug #238355 18:19 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 238355 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] status of cn wiki" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=238355 18:19 <notlocalhorst> don't spoil my record of (nearly) closed AIs! 18:19 @<henne> notlocalhorst: can you give a realistic ETA? :) 18:19 <cyberorg> i wish there was a geekette doing a naration 18:19 <notlocalhorst> i wish i could 18:19 * munkii says hello 18:19 <notlocalhorst> and i wish also that not everytime i want to start other stuff coming in my way ... 18:20 <Beineri> cyberorg: can't you simply pitch the audio track? :-) 18:20 @<henne> cyberorg: i gues we can kick Bille in the... nevermind 18:20 <munkii> what's the topic please? 18:20 <Bille> physical abuse of colleagues, it seems 18:20 <mw> wrt fate, if it were my call, we'd just use bugzilla to track features 18:21 @<henne> notlocalhorst: babel wiki too or? #293726 18:21 <munkii> Bille: sounds good, i might have few suggestions 18:21 <bgerber> I thought it was chinese wiki 18:21 @<henne> mw: thats also an option on the table yes 18:21 @<henne> yes please stop the fate discussions now or we never get trough the AI list :) 18:21 <notlocalhorst> nothing new from me 18:22 @<henne> yaloki: did christian send in the spanish translation of help.o.o. Bug #328622 18:22 <bugbot> openSUSE bug 328622 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] help.opensuse.org translations" [Normal,Assigned] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328622 18:23 @<henne> hm anyone else knows? aka_druid? 18:23 @<henne> at least its not in svn 18:23 @<henne> so not done 18:24 @<henne> okay and last but not least creation of all new mailinglists is blocked by our internal it 18:24 <jpr> say what now? 18:24 <jpr> why? 18:25 @<henne> because the only person that can fiddle with the suse mail setup is on vacation :) 18:25 @<henne> hes back on monday 18:25 <jpr> ah 18:25 <r0cketman> There's job security for you. 18:26 <Riggwelter> apokryphos: build & publish currently running for gimp-2.4

18:26 @<henne> okay that was it for Action Items. On to the next topic: Status 18:26 <Beineri> a short one 18:26 @<henne> the distributions status mails are missing because of coolo's vacation 18:26 @<henne> any questions about the status mails that are there? 18:27 <cboltz> any news on the image problem in the wiki? 18:27 <munkii> henne, i get few double messages here and there 18:27 @<henne> munkii what? 18:27 <munkii> is that something most people aware of? 18:27 <munkii> henne, yes 18:27 @<henne> cboltz: this is for Q&A 18:27 <notlocalhorst> cboltz: see mail on wiki, i asked the admins in provo to look up the proxy 18:27 <jpr> no, but should we post the kde/gnome minutes there too now? 18:27 @<henne> munkii: what are you talking about? 18:27 @<henne> jpr: yes please! 18:28 <jpr> ok 18:28 <munkii> henne, i can take screenshots if you want 18:28 * Beineri would like to see more reports, esp from Software Portal team ;-) 18:28 @<henne> munkii: i really dont know what you are talking about sorry 18:29 <munkii> henne: ML messages sent "twice" 18:29 @<henne> Beineri: yes true. but this comes natural if other teams make use of it : 18:29 @<henne> like it did with GNOME and KDE 18:29 <mw> munkii: that can happen for a variety of reasons, only some of them being the listserver's fault ;) 18:29 @<henne> i think 18:29 <cb400f> munkii: cuz people send to you _and_ to the list perhaps? .. many do that 18:29 <munkii> henne: also in -wiki and others 18:30 @<henne> this is offtopic 18:30 @<henne> contact me later 18:30 @<henne> then we can sort this out 18:30 <munkii> cb400f: no, the recipient is always the ML 18:30 <munkii> henne, sorry, i thought since you asked about problems with the ML's 18:30 @<henne> so no questions to the status of communication or buildservice? 18:30 <notlocalhorst> wait 18:30 <notlocalhorst> i just want to remind you that the next meeting is on 07.11 13:00 CET 18:31 @<henne> which is 12:00 GMT 18:31 <munkii> that's another thing 18:31 <notlocalhorst> but still 13:00 CET :-) 18:31 <munkii> why not use GMT timing instead of CET? 18:31 @<henne> do a date -d "Wednesday 2007/11/07 12:00 GMT" to see your time :) 18:32 <notlocalhorst> henne: i will add this in the mails 18:32 @<henne> yes we had that in the past already... 18:32 <notlocalhorst> munkii: because i'm lazy and know what CET is .. i will change that 18:32 @<henne> i hope we will have a lot of people from the east here then... 18:33 <munkii> notlocalhorst, that'd be nice, most international users wouldn't know what CET is 18:33 <notlocalhorst> right 18:33 <federico1> notlocalhorst: give people a good set of cities from timeanddate.com - it's very nice 18:33 <Beineri> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=7&month=11&year=2007&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 18:34 <notlocalhorst> ok, will try to make a kick ass mail next time :-) 18:34 @<henne> then you have to know what PM and AM is ;) 18:34 @<henne> anyway 18:34 @<henne> no other questions about the status? 18:35 <munkii> none here

18:36 @<henne> okay. then on to Questions and Answers. first from the wiki 18:36 @<henne> kl_eisbaer asked if we can have package descriptions in the wiki 18:36 @<henne> like http://en.opensuse.org/Gimp for example 18:37 @<henne> and integrate them into help-centers 18:37 <jpr> i think thats a great idea 18:37 @<henne> i guess that is really the scope of the software portal 18:37 <notlocalhorst> and will maybe clash with existing pages 18:37 <kl_eisbaer> henne: what do you mean with "software portal"? 18:37 <Bille> well, susehelp's metadata can include links to external sites 18:37 @<henne> also there was a request from people that are already doing something like that distribution wide a couple of months ago 18:37 <Beineri> kl_eisbaer: http://en.opensuse.org/Software_Portal 18:38 <kl_eisbaer> ah, thanks 18:38 <Bille> it's technically possible to have as many links as you like in the metadata for a package 18:38 <munkii> we already have this template --> http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Infobox_Software 18:38 @<henne> i cant remember who that was :/ 18:39 <kl_eisbaer> so as it's no big technical problem, Bille, can you implement it in the helpcenter? 18:39 <munkii> and i'm working on this page for easy access to most important templates --> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Template_Messages 18:40 <kl_eisbaer> but this would perhaps increase the workload of the wiki-admins... 18:40 <notlocalhorst> munkii: nice 18:40 <munkii> henne, how do i make this more visible for wiki editors? 18:40 <Bille> kl_eisbaer: in theory it's already implemented. in practice i don't know if it works, or if the yelp tool evaluates all the metadata susehelp provides 18:40 @<henne> notlocalhorst should know 18:40 <Beineri> kl_eisbaer: uhm, what would have wiki-admins to do? 18:40 <kl_eisbaer> perhaps we should have a solution which redirects to other pages of the page doesn't exist ? 18:40 <cb400f> munkii: link from wiki team page? 18:41 <jpr> hpj: ^^ you know about yelp in this case? 18:41 <notlocalhorst> kl_eisbaer: i'm not sure if we already agreed that this should be in the wiki? 18:41 <Bille> might also be nice to automate this with PDB or something to generate skeleton pages and susehelp metadata automatically 18:41 <kl_eisbaer> notlocalhorst: right. 18:41 <jpr> Bille: we'd need pdb to be public for that :-) 18:41 <jpr> well, not exactly, but it would help 18:42 <Bille> jpr well, longer term it 'or something' will be 18:42 <kl_eisbaer> Bille: thats what I mean with "increases the workload for wiki admins" 18:42 <notlocalhorst> kl_eisbaer: but from my side it would be ok, with a namespace for it ... and i could also do a script to make the pages 18:42 <kl_eisbaer> I don't want to to this in pdb 18:42 <kl_eisbaer> nor in rpm 18:42 * Bille points interested people at /usr/share/susehelp/meta/Internet/sdb_online.desktop as an example 18:42 <kl_eisbaer> but perhaps we can add a special file in /usr/share/doc/packages/<packagename> which contains a link to an external URL? 18:43 <kl_eisbaer> so perhaps the package maintainer can add a link into (lets say) EXTERNALLINK which points to interesing informations about this package in the internet? 18:44 <notlocalhorst> why not just use url/packagename? 18:44 <kl_eisbaer> and susehelp can check for this file and use the link? 18:44 @<henne> there we go: http://pakanto.org/wiki/Pakanto:Main_Page 18:44 <Bille> kl_eisbaer: that's what we already have, the difference is it would be in the package instead of centralised in susehelp 18:44 <kl_eisbaer> notlocalhorst: i18n? 18:44 @<henne> This project is dedicated to creating better package descriptions for today's Linux/Unix package management systems. 18:44 @<henne> i think we should focus our effort on that one 18:44 <notlocalhorst> kl_eisbaer: hmm .. nobody will translate it anyway :-) 18:44 @<henne> we dont have the resources to do all this on our own 18:45 <kl_eisbaer> notlocalhorst: you don't speak to german teachers ;-) 18:45 <kl_eisbaer> ...and thats why I want to have it in the wiki - people using wikipedia know how to write an article 18:45 <notlocalhorst> kl_eisbaer: right, but before we go on, it would be interesting what the status of the software portal is 18:45 <kl_eisbaer> and it the packager places a file in the %docudir, susehelp can redirect.... 18:46 @<henne> kl_eisbaer: youre already in implementation details... 18:46 <kl_eisbaer> henne: right. 18:46 <kl_eisbaer> I think we should work on two sides here: 18:46 <kl_eisbaer> - people should write documentation 18:47 <kl_eisbaer> - and packagers (or others) should add a link to this documentation in the helpsystem 18:47 @<henne> shoulda woulda coulda :) 18:47 <kl_eisbaer> my feeling is that packagers should know better which external links could be helpful 18:48 @<henne> we need package metadata handled externaly. not in pdb 18:48 <kl_eisbaer> and its easier to place such a link in a file than having x tools for that ;-) 18:48 @<henne> the current plan is to do this in the software portal 18:48 <notlocalhorst> lets discuss this on which list? 18:48 @<henne> packaging 18:48 <kl_eisbaer> henne: the software portal is one solution, packaging another ;-) 18:48 <kl_eisbaer> ok 18:49 @<henne> kl_eisbaer: please start that discussion 18:49 <cboltz> maybe you can also post a short explanation what pdb is and what it does ;-) 18:49 * kl_eisbaer prepares a mail... ;-) 18:50 @<henne> okay as there are no other questions on the wiki. any other general questions in here? :) 18:50 <jpr> what is the status of the board? 18:50 <federico1> so 18:50 <federico1> jpr: we are basically deciding what the scope of the board is, and getting the infrastructure ready (mailing list, wiki, etc.) 18:51 @<henne> the announcement is blocked by the guiding principles 18:51 @<henne> that need to be published 18:51 <federico1> jpr: we are also in the process of interviewing people for the openSUSE Chief Evangelist job which was announced a little while ago 18:52 <federico1> henne: hmm, I believe Michl was working on that? 18:52 @<henne> federico1: he is 18:53 @<henne> notlocalhorst is too 18:53 <notlocalhorst> not me 18:53 @<henne> well you poke around dont you? 18:53 <munkii> henne: when will we start discussing plans for openSUSE 11? 18:53 <notlocalhorst> i always poke ... 18:53 @<henne> munkii: define plans 18:54 <munkii> features, ideas, etc.. 18:54 <GNAM> dates 18:54 <munkii> release dates 18:54 <munkii> yes 18:55 @<henne> whats there to discuss? 8 months after 10.3 :) 18:55 <jpr> if there is nothing to discuss why isn't the roadmap up :-) 18:55 <jpr> http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.0 18:55 <jpr> blankety blank 18:55 <Beineri> federico1: also interesting would be to hear sometime who is on what board ;-)... people doing jobs not being officially appointed yet is a bit... 18:56 <Beineri> federico1: and as you're good at leaking 18:57 @<henne> that is really coolos job who is on vacation... 18:57 <federico1> Beineri: let's wait for AJ to come by before we can disclose that information :( 18:57 <jpr> Q: are there any plans for an openSUSE users/dev summit ala fedora/ubuntu either standalone or part of FOSDEM 18:57 @<henne> munkii: you have to poke him on monday or start a discussion on -project 18:57 <hpj> jpr: adding an extra link to say, yelp's index page, is possible, but there isn't any infrastructure to do it already in place 18:57 <jpr> hpj: we should look at the susehelp metadata bits 18:58 @<henne> jpr: we always have that with FOSDEM and Linuxtag 18:58 <munkii> henne: will he be present in the next status meeting? 18:58 <hpj> jpr: sure, i just mean for display 18:58 <jpr> henne: it was never clear to me that we formalized it 18:58 @<henne> munkii: yes he will be back next time 18:59 <hpj> jpr: i suppose an 11.0 solution would involve rarian adding a metadata field based on data extracted from .desktop files (or some such) 18:59 @<henne> jpr: maybe you should define users/dev summit then :) 18:59 <hpj> jpr: and then adding the display code to yelp 18:59 <jpr> henne: and it doesn't seem like the event the fedora and ubuntu ones are (at least to me) 18:59 <jpr> hpj: cool 19:00 <jpr> henne: who is organizing those events this year - also that means exactly zero non-European presence :-) 19:00 @<henne> jpr: as always notlocalhorst is 19:00 <notlocalhorst> the new chief evangelist will do it 19:00 @<henne> heh 19:00 <jpr> ok 19:01 <Beineri> so, notlocalhorst for chief evangelist? ;-) 19:01 @<henne> okay any other general questions? 19:01 <cboltz> Can we clarify the usage of the -announce ML? Currently GNOME meetings are announced, but not KDE meetings.I'd vote for "all" or "nothing" - but not "one does, one doesn't" ;-) 19:02 <notlocalhorst> i vote for _one_ mail on monday with all meetings of the week 19:02 <Beineri> cboltz: as there was only one rather spontanous KDE meeting yet, how can you see "KDE meetings"? 19:02 @<henne> +1 19:02 <Beineri> s/see/say/ 19:02 <notlocalhorst> jpr & Beineri: can you live with that? 19:02 <cboltz> Beineri: IIRC I have read somewhere[tm] that the KDE team won't spam -announce ;-) 19:03 <Beineri> notlocalhorst: sure, as long I don't have to post ;-) 19:04 <notlocalhorst> i will bring it up on project 19:04 @<henne> you should just write the mail 19:04 <notlocalhorst> k 19:04 @<henne> and tell people that usualy send the mails 19:04 <notlocalhorst> k 19:04 <jpr> cboltz: the gnome team will continue to send to announce 19:04 @<henne> which is at the moment just jpr ;) 19:04 <jpr> just as the project meeting does 19:05 <Beineri> people should really use http://news.opensuse.org/?ec3_ical 19:05 <munkii> meetings schedule should also be announced on news.opensuse monthly 19:05 @<henne> jpr: notlocalhorst wants to send 1 mail on monday 19:05 <jpr> i personally don't consider it spam 19:05 <notlocalhorst> but some ppl do ... 19:05 <notlocalhorst> let's discuss this on list 19:05 <jpr> but why? 19:05 <jpr> is it spam to announce this list? 19:05 <Beineri> munkii: planning one month in advance? :-) 19:05 <cboltz> jpr: that's because you aren't a KDE user *SCNR* 19:05 <munkii> yeppers 19:05 <cboltz> IMHO people expect an -announce list not to send lots of mails 19:06 <notlocalhorst> jpr: no, i guess it's just the amount ... 19:06 <munkii> spontaneous are no good 19:06 <munkii> spontaneous meetings* 19:06 <jpr> notlocalhorst: once per meeting? 19:06 * benJIman finds the gnome -announce es rather ott 19:06 @<henne> whoever considers informational mails with content spam deserves to be ignored 19:06 <_Bille> munkii: the kde meeting was spont one time only, now it's regular :) 19:06 <benJIman> henne: Announcing a recurring meeting, that is every week? 19:06 @<henne> but we could send one mail on monday announce all meetings for the week 19:07 <jpr> i'd be fine with that 19:07 * cboltz seconds the "meetings this week" idea 19:07 <munkii> _Bille: then i see no reason why it shouldn't be announced on news 19:07 <notlocalhorst> so, short discussion on -project, no matter what you say .. i would like to see also other opinions 19:07 <jpr> as long as i get to add a little bonus text 19:07 <jpr> we do things to get new people like the bluetooth thing 19:07 <jpr> that woudl be nice to mention 19:07 <notlocalhorst> yes 19:07 @<henne> sure 19:08 @<henne> okay anything else? 19:09 <cboltz> A small technical thing on the wiki: linebreaks in meeting transcripts. 19:09 <cboltz> We don't need to discuss technical details here, but I'd like to know if you are going to fix it ;-) 19:09 @<henne> who is you? me? 19:09 <munkii> and wikitables need to have vertical line separators, that's another thing for css people 19:09 <cboltz> the CSS programmer(s) ;-) 19:09 @<henne> cboltz: bugreport it? 19:10 <cboltz> OK, I'll open a bugreport. 19:10 @<henne> okay 19:10 <cboltz> Another question: when will the login page get the new theme? 19:11 @<henne> the ichain page? 19:11 <notlocalhorst> the novell one? 19:11 <munkii> cboltz: can you include my suggestion along with your report? 19:11 <cboltz> the *.opensuse.org one 19:11 <cboltz> for example wiki login 19:11 <munkii> no the wikitables vertical lines 19:11 <cboltz> munkii: that's another issue, please open a separate report ;-) 19:12 @<henne> cboltz: that is ichain. make a bugreport for darix 19:12 <cboltz> henne: OK 19:13 @<henne> 12 after. that was it then. If you have more, dont hesitate to bring it up on the appropriate mailinglist. 19:13 @<henne> The next project meeting will be at the 8th of November. Same channel but this time at 12:00 GMT!!! 19:13 @<henne> The next meeting is the GNOME meeting tomorrow at 16:00 GMT. Be there :) 19:13 @<henne> Thank you all for participating. Good night and good luck! 19:13 <Beineri> henne: not 7th? 19:13 @<henne> of course 19:13 <Beineri> nice try ;-) 19:13 @<henne> 7th. oof november sorry